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Title: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on October 08, 2013, 08:10:43 PM I know that ME7xx create an after and before point in the Engine Management Systems from Bosch. These systems are by far more capable, flexible and smart than older ones but for example, I still see many people looking for info and dealing with old M38x & M592 ECUs that continues working in many aspirated and turbo cars around there.
I have seen the capabilities of the people in this forum to help and solve problems, share amazing info & custom software that do wonders, then with all your respect, the idea of this topic is just to create a little thread where we can share all this stuff (if you want) and left that small group of people some support. Regards, Elio Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on October 09, 2013, 06:04:26 AM Here I want to share some good tuning guides for old Motronic from Ecuconnections forum friends:
http://www.ecuconnections.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=867. Other very good reference for old Motronic enviroment is: http://www.motronic.ws/ And here left you some info, diagnosis, operation, pinout, etc.... about Motronic M382, M383 & M592: http://www.mediafire.com/view/jnxv32kg1edggm9/Motronic383_%231.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/jnxv32kg1edggm9/Motronic383_%231.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/zu38n7yyy985cuv/Motronic383_%232.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/zu38n7yyy985cuv/Motronic383_%232.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/3zxq58n5u5trdxj/1.8T_AEB_Passat_ECU_Wiring_Diagram.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/3zxq58n5u5trdxj/1.8T_AEB_Passat_ECU_Wiring_Diagram.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/l92cfgm6coocsy0/Bosch_Motronic_M3.8.3_5_1.8T_AGU_pinout.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/l92cfgm6coocsy0/Bosch_Motronic_M3.8.3_5_1.8T_AGU_pinout.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/gppiciihiig360e/Bosch_Motronic_M3.8.2_1.8T_AEB_pinout.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/gppiciihiig360e/Bosch_Motronic_M3.8.2_1.8T_AEB_pinout.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/6v9ha7gd0304kxs/Bosch_Motronic_M5.9.2_AEG-AQY_Info.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/6v9ha7gd0304kxs/Bosch_Motronic_M5.9.2_AEG-AQY_Info.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b5af/o1n21z71esdjmef4g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/o1n21z71esdjmef/Ignition_Coils_%26_ECU_Pinout_1.8T_AEB_AGU_Comparison.JPG) http://www.mediafire.com/view/lshe3crphzlk0g8/Bosch_M3.8.3_1.8T_AGU_Golf_MK4_wiring_diagrams.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/lshe3crphzlk0g8/Bosch_M3.8.3_1.8T_AGU_Golf_MK4_wiring_diagrams.pdf) Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on October 30, 2013, 02:20:44 PM Generally speaking M38x and M592 Ecus are based in Intel MCS96 microcontrollers. So here I left some excellent articles from Intel how a MCS96 MCU interface a CAN Controller and Flash Eeprom memories.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1s1n32ml709l0w5/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_BookBlock_Flash_Memories.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/1s1n32ml709l0w5/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_BookBlock_Flash_Memories.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/utxj2yce33wvlhh/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_I2C_Serial_Eeprom_27268001.PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/utxj2yce33wvlhh/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_I2C_Serial_Eeprom_27268001.PDF) http://www.mediafire.com/view/h58niydyz3b2u7l/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_Intel_Flash_29217601.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/h58niydyz3b2u7l/MCS96_Microcontroller_Interface_with_Intel_Flash_29217601.pdf) http://www.mediafire.com/view/gxiadpld3lq7k75/MCS51_Microcontroller_Interface_with_82527_CAN_Controller_27276401.PDF (http://www.mediafire.com/view/gxiadpld3lq7k75/MCS51_Microcontroller_Interface_with_82527_CAN_Controller_27276401.PDF) Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on January 26, 2014, 06:51:35 PM Friends here I found some interested info about Motronic 3.8 and an excellent Automotive German-English Translator.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/s0j070774xbyi8p/Motronic%2038%20CD68.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/view/dtzrzk5q5qv94vi/Bosch%20Dictionary%20English%20German%20French.pdf Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on February 04, 2014, 07:30:41 PM Another excellent info about how works M-Motronic Engine Management System:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/94c1hy99xa6c76v/Bosch_M-Motronic_Engine_Management_89403362.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/view/94c1hy99xa6c76v/Bosch_M-Motronic_Engine_Management_89403362.pdf) Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on February 27, 2014, 07:31:25 AM Here are the basic procedure or function how old Bosch M-Motronic calculates fuel injection:
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/79f2/uhws407v4125pqo4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/uhws407v4125pqo/Bosch_M-Motronic_Fuel_Injection_Timing_Calculation.jpg) and ignition timing: (https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/0a14/oph5ulakmcztsmf4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/oph5ulakmcztsmf/Bosch_M-Motronic_Ignition_Timing_Calculation.jpg) Regards, Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: edgy on June 04, 2014, 07:47:08 AM Eliotroyano, do you happen to have any technical info for Motronic 5.4 or 5.41?
Title: Re: The older Motronic thread Post by: eliotroyano on June 04, 2014, 10:28:55 AM Eliotroyano, do you happen to have any technical info for Motronic 5.4 or 5.41? Not really Edgy, but I heard some people people comment about it here in the forums, I think. Any info you can add will be appreciated.Thanks, |