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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: nagoL on October 18, 2013, 02:44:54 PM



Title: Running lean in boost
Post by: nagoL on October 18, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
Guys,

I'm running a bit lean while in boost around 12.8 and I believe I should be in the 11's - I've also got a weird issue where if I throw her into neutral an coast to a red light she tends to idle as if I have a vac leak and my wide band runs up to 17s and back down over and over. It will do this consistently until I get under around 15 mph to a stopping point then shes back to a normal idle.  I believe this also has to do with my AFR.   Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Specs are shown below and I can supply my recent logs if needed.

'03 VW 1.8 GTI  - Eurodyne Maestro Software
  - GT3071r turbo w/ billet wheel
  - Tial stainless steel GT3- v-band exhaust housing
  - Tial MV-R 44mm wastegate
  - InjectorDynamics ID725 injectors
  - APR intake manifold
  - 3" exhaust system. no cat. Magnaflow resonator and muffler. Dual tips.
  - Eurojet grenade Diverter Valve
  - Greddy 500hp core
  - Devils Own's DVC-30 water methanol
  - 42DD oil catch can
  - Aeromotive 340 fuel pump
  - 2.0T coil pack upgrade with IE spacers
  - Fluidampr lower pulley
  - Brute 19mm Connection rods



(http://i42.tinypic.com/2i06qly.jpg)


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: adam- on October 18, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
Why enrich then lean out towards redline?


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: terminator on October 18, 2013, 04:35:13 PM
Of course, because you have made it lean  ;).

KFLF is not AFR request.
0.85 means 14.7(aprox) + 15% = around 16.9 without lambda correction.

But if you use methanol you should lean it a little via KFLF or KFKHFM to prevent misfires.


By the way, what software do you use? ECM Titanium also "think" that KFLF = AFR request.


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: nagoL on October 18, 2013, 05:10:26 PM
Hrm, well i run 14.7 when cruising and i thought 0.1000 was the desired lambda for 14.7

The software is Eurodyne Maestro


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: ddillenger on October 18, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
Think that is BTS...


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: B234R on October 18, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
No!
Lambda 0,85 means:
14,7 AFR * 0,85 = AFR 12,5.

If you see 12,8 on your WB gauge, it can be due to a lot of things.
Request is AFR 12,5 from that map.

No rocket science.


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: nagoL on October 18, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
Eh, appreciate the patience everyone.  New to the tuning scene.

So, i need to tune more towards .78 request for this map if I want 11.5ish while in WOT (boost)?


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: RaraK on October 18, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
.81-.82 max if you have meth as itll add an extra point or so depending on your nozzles.



Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: terminator on October 19, 2013, 06:07:38 AM
Think that is BTS...
Yeap, I was wrong  ;D

No!
Lambda 0,85 means:
14,7 AFR * 0,85 = AFR 12,5.

Its for BTS or LAMFA, not for KFLF, like I thought) Strange thoughts  ;D


Title: Re: Running lean in boost
Post by: userpike on October 19, 2013, 07:51:33 AM
There is a huge Eurodyne thread on VWVortex.