NefMoto

It seems that we do not have E85 in the UK.

I have been onto my friend Google and still no dice.

So is there anywhere to get E85 in the UK or will it ever be available here?

Just to make you jealous

We have E100 in every gas station here since 70´s  :D

:-( don't rub it in even more!!

Why can't the UK get more with the times!!!

Fairly certain this is why:

n the 2000/2001 season, world maize exports broke down as follows figures in tons:

United States 49,500,000
Argentina 9,500,000
China 6,000,000
*Hungary 2,000,000
South Africa 1,300,000
*Romania 300,000
*Ukraine 200,000
*EU 100,000
Thailand 100,000

Sorry I do not follow?

This is for exports, Europe are lower on the export scale so could suggest that they are using all their ptoduced maize and not exporting much, US have very high exports so based on the information provided it doesn't state where it's being exported.... etc etc. there are a lot of ways to interpret the data you have provided?

I look at that more like place that produce enough corn to use it as an alternative fuel source.

..and that was over ten years ago..

Ok I see.

Corn ? We make ethanol in brazil from "cana de açucar" (don´t know if there is an english name  lol !)

Sugarcane.

 ;D just a literal translate  ::)

Ethanol is a grain alcohol.. Sugar is usually added, and to be honest I don't know if sugar cane is a grain?

Dont´know if I undestood rigth, but there is a picture of sugarcane:

(http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/cana-de-a%C3%A7%C3%BAcar-28398353.jpg)

(http://www.renukadobrasil.com.br/imagens/produtos/cana-de-acucar.jpg)

You squize it and will have a liquid very sweet that you can drink, and after some other process cachaça, sugar (the solid) and Ethanol.

sugar + yeast = alcohol.

when they say grain alcohol it something like cornmeal or wheat or rye or something of that nature was used also with sugar added. thats for drinking, not making shity tasting fuel. not that I've chugged e85 before...I swear... :P Although here in FL I've seen swamp buggies run on straight moonshine which was about 95-98% pure "grain" alcohol.

Now methanol I don't believe these united states has any regulations to discourage production, unless it's changed very recently. It's probably somewhat similar world wide. If you've got a welding or gas supply shop near you your set up to run. I've sat in on a few runs of methanol but it's relatively hazardous, and without the "personal" benefits.

I looked into it a while back. Here in FL, you have get a permit at a cost of about $6000 to produce it plus all the cost involved with getting the proper materials so the "distillery"( your detached garage or barn structure) passes inspection. Then you are limited in the amount you can make without getting a commercial licence.

I never deal with metanol, but some friends who works in drag racing cars do a lot...

if you stay behind car you´ll hurt your eys (tears fall apart lol)...

besides methanol will outstand like 120~130oct

cana de açucar ethanol works like 110oct fuel...

The great diference is the heat proof...

last week I made an Golf IV 1.8 20VT with an upgraded turbocharger with OEM intercooler advance next 6.000 RPM was about 30~32° with lambda about 0,85 and never get any knock using ethanol even the inlet temperature was about 95°C...  car measeured 310Hp@7.000RPM and 42Mkfd@5.500 RPM.

Ower send me a log today IAT with 126°C and no knock at all...

Impressive that there is no knock.

I was very impressed too...

But, compression ratio in NA engines with mild cams using regular fuel stays next 10~10,5:1 (indirect injection of course)... the same engine just using modified pistons (injectors and another mods to feed rigth) to raise CR can achieve next to 13,5:1 using Ethanol... I saw some competition engines using ethanol and very agresive cams with 14,5~15,5:1 !!!!!

Made some 1.8 20VT became 2.0 stroker engines with CR 11,5:1 using GTX3071R and 1,45Bar falling to 1,25Bar and achieve 530cv and 64mkgf with no knock at all  (advance next to 22° and lambda next to 0,83 next rev limiter).

I said all the good things... now it´s time to de bad....

ethanol has a flash point between 13,5 and 17°C  so it´s very hard to start an engine in temperatures lower than this, and even if You are next to 20~30°C you´ll need a LOT of enrichment...

Another bad thing it is particulated, you get your fuel filter clogged in about 5.000 miles, and your pump will have to be about 50% bigger (what requires modifications in Wiring in some cases).