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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: jogtx16v on December 12, 2013, 08:21:13 AM



Title: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on December 12, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
Hi

Im new to the forum and newbie in flashing/programming me7

I have 032 DL ecu and I want to immo off them and if possible to flash the original file of 032 HS in.

im electronic tech and I have many kkl usb cable and serial. I also know how to bench set up  ecu. I have some experience with megasquirt standalone but I need to learn more about flashing and software for the bosch me7.

need help to start thank a lot

Jo


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: turbopro on December 12, 2013, 10:07:09 AM
Hi

Im new to the forum and newbie in flashing/programming me7

I have 032 DL ecu and I want to immo off them and if possible to flash the original file of 032 HS in.

im electronic tech and I have many kkl usb cable and serial. I also know how to bench set up  ecu. I have some experience with megasquirt standalone but I need to learn more about flashing and software for the bosh me7.


need help to start thank a lot

Jo

It might be but i believe you will have to immo off the ecu. worse case your car will start run for a few seconds then turn off. you wont brick the ecu by flashing so give it a shot you can alway reload your factory software


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 12, 2013, 10:18:21 AM
You will need to put the ECU in boot mode and modify the EEPROM to immo off the ecu.  You can run the HS file on the DL with no problem (i have done it).  You can flash the file without affecting your IMMO also if you want to go that route.  This all assumes it's not already flashed


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on December 12, 2013, 10:34:15 AM
You will need to put the ECU in boot mode and modify the EEPROM to immo off the ecu.  You can run the HS file on the DL with no problem (i have done it).  You can flash the file without affecting your IMMO also if you want to go that route.  This all assumes it's not already flashed

thank a lot ! all this can be done with NefMoto ECU Flashing Software ?
I think the DL software is stock but this is a great idea to back up before reading ? using what ?  ArgDub's tool ?

This is easy for immo off ?

I read a lot on the forum before play in ecu, i don't want to do anything wrong. sorry newbie question  :-\



Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: darkshado87 on December 12, 2013, 07:23:02 PM
For boot mode you need galletto you can buy it on eBay for around $10 with the software if also recommend getting vcds lite or vagcom 409.1. Immo off is easy there is a step by step on the later pages of that tread. Also mpps is much more straight forward then nefmoto software an you can pick that up for about $20 on eBay every thing you need to know is right here. On this site


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 13, 2013, 05:20:20 AM
Galletto is good to have, but that's not what you need. You need the EEPROM tool (it's in the forum somewhere) and any Dumb USB cable. Backup the EEPROM before you try to read with nefmoto. I'll see if I can find the immo defeat thread when I get to work that explains what to do. After that you can just read and write with nefmoto.


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on December 13, 2013, 09:44:17 AM
thank you very much ! I will try nefmoto soon. I don't think I need 15$ ebay chinese flash tool. I don't want to use the easiest way. I want to learn how it work.

For boot mode, I read I need to gnd pin 24 on the eeprom before power ecu. and let it to gnd few second after power on.
I also discovered that some people use 1k resistor between pin and gnd.

you think my blue dump usb 409.1 cable will work ?




Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 13, 2013, 11:29:39 AM
thank you very much ! I will try nefmoto soon. I don't think I need 15$ ebay chinese flash tool. I don't want to use the easiest way. I want to learn how it work.

For boot mode, I read I need to gnd pin 24 on the eeprom before power ecu. and let it to gnd few second after power on.
I also discovered that some people use 1k resistor between pin and gnd.

you think my blue dump usb 409.1 cable will work ?




That is the correct sequence for boot mode.  no resistor needed for this ECU.  Your cable should work just fine. 

I have created what i think is a pretty decent stg 1 tune for this ECU if you want it.  I can also help you get started creating your own.  I'm no expert, but can get you on the right path to a stg 1/2.


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 13, 2013, 11:30:32 AM
BTW -- if you want to keep the DL software (I did), you can use the 032DR xdf thats on this forum somewhere.  Lines up pretty well with the DL ECU.


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: ddillenger on December 13, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
The resistor is not so much for getting the ecu in bootmode as it is for preventing you from frying something if you touch the wrong pin.


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on December 14, 2013, 07:49:57 PM
That is the correct sequence for boot mode.  no resistor needed for this ECU.  Your cable should work just fine. 

I have created what i think is a pretty decent stg 1 tune for this ECU if you want it.  I can also help you get started creating your own.  I'm no expert, but can get you on the right path to a stg 1/2.

interesting ! If you can give me your decent stg1, I will check that first. In the futur, I will created my own for sure.

I also have a commercial stg2 tune in my summer car, but I don't want to touch this ecu.

Im here to learn, not to try any file on my car. But if you can give me this tune in pm or here I think it will be a good start for me.

thank you and sorry for my english  :P








Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on January 19, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
TTT

Im doing this today for the first time.

I turned of my immo and im now to process of try nefmoto flashing software for the first time

the ecu is out of the car, what protocol is recommended if I do that on bench ? bootmode or kwp2000 ?

thank for helping


 


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jackson.amrol@gmail.com on January 19, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
Kwp in nefmoto. Nefmoto doesn't flash via bootmode


Title: Re: oem tune HS in DL ecu
Post by: jogtx16v on January 20, 2014, 02:20:11 PM
ok first try reading on my benchsetup with nefmoto fail. this is stock dl ecu. immo off was done before reading 29f800eeprom.

what im doing wrong ?

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Validated FTDI device is in dumb mode.
Disconnected
Connecting...
Starting slow init connection.
Connecting to address 0x01.
Slow init succeeded.
Switching to KWP1281 session.
KWP1281 connect info: 06A906032DL 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0003
Connecting to address 0x01.
Slow init succeeded.
Switching to KWP2000 session.
Connected
Disabling Windows sleep mode.
Reading ECU flash memory.
ECU reports programming session preconditions have been met.
Negotiating communication timings.
Successfully changed to new communication timings.
Requesting security access.
ECU reports that security access request was rejected.
Starting diagnostic session.
Disconnecting because no response was received for the Tester Present message.
Disconnected
Reading ECU flash memory failed.
100% complete.
Restoring Windows sleep mode.
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