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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: jogtx16v on December 18, 2013, 06:23:01 PM



Title: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: jogtx16v on December 18, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
I need to know if CL ecu is compatible in AWP HS ecu car.

I know HS and DL are wideband ecu's but what about the CL ecu.

Can I simply drop HS tune in, with immo off ?

plug and play or not ?









Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 18, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
I need to know if CL ecu is compatible in AWP HS ecu car.

I know HS and DL are wideband ecu's but what about the CL ecu.

Can I simply drop HS tune in, with immo off ?

plug and play or not ?







As far as I know it should work fine. The CL is another AWW ecu, right?


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 18, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Scratch that... CL is AWD. I don't believe it's even ME7


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: ddillenger on December 18, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
CL is narrowband ME7.5, 512kb file.

HS is wideband ME7.5, 1024kb file.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: jogtx16v on December 18, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
tank you all


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: jogtx16v on December 20, 2013, 09:36:25 AM
can anybody tell me if all 1.8T 06A 906 032 wideband ecu's are compatible each to other.

can i take a automatic or 6speed ecu and reflash it to run this in my AWP 5speed MT ?



Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: prj on December 20, 2013, 10:10:41 AM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/86/86b5a4290062980ef4a4f26601c7a348337de3fab0656d85da390835d4f9d430.jpg)


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: jogtx16v on December 20, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/86/86b5a4290062980ef4a4f26601c7a348337de3fab0656d85da390835d4f9d430.jpg)

wtf with you dude ?


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: ddillenger on December 20, 2013, 11:53:11 AM
032PL 032LP 032LQ 032SK 032RN are all compatible in my experience.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: jogtx16v on December 20, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
thank you very much ddillenger !



Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 20, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
i've personally cross flashed HS -> DL, HN -> DL, DM -> DL, DL->DM.  I've also read that all wideband me7.5 of a similar family will be fine.  I've defientely read that rthe 2.0 (non turbo) ecu (as long as its 1024 flash) will cross-flash and run the car fine.  Definitely seems auto/manual/6spd makes no difference.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: prj on December 20, 2013, 01:11:40 PM
Auto very much makes a difference.
5/6 speed is usually just coding on these.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: ddillenger on December 20, 2013, 01:28:15 PM
Flashing the 2.0 ECU with 1.8 software will result in an ecu with no boost control. The hardware for the N75 isn't present.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 20, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Auto very much makes a difference.
5/6 speed is usually just coding on these.

Maybe i wasn't clear in the way i said that... I am currently running an auto ECU with manual software.  Seems to make no difference.  I've done the same thing with a 512kb 12v VR6 ecu in the past as well.

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Flashing the 2.0 ECU with 1.8 software will result in an ecu with no boost control. The hardware for the N75 isn't present.
I thought the same thing, but i definitely recall someone saying they ran 1.8t software on a 2.0 ECU with no problem and boost control worked.  Maybe they just got lucky, idk...


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: prj on December 20, 2013, 02:48:33 PM
Maybe i wasn't clear in the way i said that... I am currently running an auto ECU with manual software.  Seems to make no difference.  I've done the same thing with a 512kb 12v VR6 ecu in the past as well.
And maybe I wasn't clear either - I know for a fact it won't work properly.
But sure, it will start.

Most likely you are not running auto software, as you would instantly have lots of codes+limp in ME7 if you tried that.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 20, 2013, 03:09:15 PM
And maybe I wasn't clear either - I know for a fact it won't work properly.
But sure, it will start.

Most likely you are not running auto software, as you would instantly have lots of codes+limp in ME7 if you tried that.

Hey man -- not trying to be difficult or anything, but I did actually say I'm running manual software on the auto ecu (which works totally fine and is also what the OP was asking about). 


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: prj on December 26, 2013, 11:22:34 AM
Hey man -- not trying to be difficult or anything, but I did actually say I'm running manual software on the auto ecu (which works totally fine and is also what the OP was asking about). 

This will be less crap than the other way around, but your idle, warmup and gear detection is far from good.
It's just a question of standards. What maybe "totally fine" for you, is horrible for someone who knows what to look for.

I don't see the point in the entire cross flash fad. You take a car, you read the SW, you tune the SW and you put it back in the car, done.
There is never any need to change it to something else.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: ddillenger on December 26, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
This will be less crap than the other way around, but your idle, warmup and gear detection is far from good.
It's just a question of standards. What maybe "totally fine" for you, is horrible for someone who knows what to look for.

I don't see the point in the entire cross flash fad. You take a car, you read the SW, you tune the SW and you put it back in the car, done.
There is never any need to change it to something else.

Sometimes you don't have a manual ecu available, or vice versa. I think that's where he was going with this.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 26, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
A lot of times a replacement auto ECU is cheaper (at least from what i've seen on eBay).  i recently wanted to verify my ecu wasn't the cause of a problem i was having so i bought a cheap auto ECU from eBay and flashed it with my manual software — it works perfectly.



Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: prj on December 26, 2013, 12:16:35 PM
A lot of times a replacement auto ECU is cheaper (at least from what i've seen on eBay).  i recently wanted to verify my ecu wasn't the cause of a problem i was having so i bought a cheap auto ECU from eBay and flashed it with my manual software — it works perfectly.

I think we are misunderstanding each other. Or rather I am misunderstanding the thread (I just re-read).
It is perfectly OK to buy a different ECU then clone your ECU flash and EEPROM into it and run your car.
The hardware is the same.

I thought you have an automatic car and you are trying to run manual software on it. This is not going to work very well, same thing the other way around. What you describe is perfectly OK, there is no physical difference between most of the ECU's as long as the board and the boot loader is the same.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: ddillenger on December 26, 2013, 12:21:15 PM
I knew there had to be a disconnect occurring somewhere along the line.


Title: Re: Ecu compatibility CL and HS
Post by: oldcarguy85 on December 26, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
haha -- cool -- glad we are all on the same page!  I was really starting to question my thinking there for a bit....