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Technical => Cluster and Immobilizer => Topic started by: jaymk89 on January 17, 2014, 10:47:07 AM



Title: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 17, 2014, 10:47:07 AM
Hi all,

Could somebody IMMO OFF the attached file please, this will help me get my car back up and running :)

Pulled direct from EEPROM.

Jay


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: ddillenger on January 17, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
Maybe you should open your file before posting it.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jogtx16v on January 17, 2014, 12:34:58 PM
no data on this file


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 18, 2014, 04:33:59 AM
Sorry all,

I took this straight off through the OBDii port and it took a good 4minutes to read and save so I was under the understanding that that file was ok. Unsure where to go to now then. Please close this thread if you see fit.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: _nameless on January 18, 2014, 08:24:25 AM
remove the ecu and bootmode read and post. I will immo off for you


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 18, 2014, 08:26:12 AM
Hi darkshado,

No problem, do you require the eeprom read or the full read through nefmoto?

Jay


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: _nameless on January 18, 2014, 09:03:18 AM
Hi darkshado,

No problem, do you require the eeprom read or the full read through nefmoto?

Jay
use argdub's tool to read the eeprom in boot mode. There are how to's at the top of the forum. Read over you will figure it out its not that hard. Also I a vid on how to use  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZSv0n4seBA


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: Boost401 on January 18, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
Darkshadow I don't know what happen or how you received all the negative feedback on your last acct , but I actually think your pretty helpful


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 18, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
Rep given to you Darkshado87, I'm at work now but will be trying to do this tomorrow after work (currently 00:02 GMT here)


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: _nameless on January 19, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
Rep given to you Darkshado87, I'm at work now but will be trying to do this tomorrow after work (currently 00:02 GMT here)
Thanks


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 19, 2014, 07:52:44 AM
Hi all,

Still having issues with getting the ECU into bootmode, I'm sure I'm doing everything right, this is the error I keep getting:

C:\Users\Jays>C:\Users\Jays\Desktop\EEPROM\me7_95040.exe --bootmode -p 1 -r 9504
0.bin
Ver: 1.31
Com Port: 1
Baud Rate: 10400
Opening COM1 ... OK
Starting Boot_mode ... FAIL ... No response from ECU. (error=0x07)
Closing COM1

and I am going off of the attached image to try to get the ECU into bootmode. I have tried to ground out the pad marked red to the battery negative terminal and also the ecu shroud (just below the pin, the silver strip that runs around the ecu)

What am I doing wrong?! I'm tempted just to get a new ECU now :(


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jogtx16v on January 19, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
are you sure have bench set up like this ?
http://s743.photobucket.com/user/onsperformance/media/Ecupinout1.jpg.html

for boot mode :
1. ecu power off
2. ground pin 24
3. power on ecu.
4. wait 2-3 seconds. 
5. remove pin 24 ground
6. try to connect


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: ddillenger on January 19, 2014, 09:55:56 AM
What year is your car, what model, what processor?


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 19, 2014, 10:00:06 AM
It's a 2000 Volkswagen Golf 1.8t GTI, it's the ME7.5 with infineon processor. I'm actually in the process of sourcing OBDII connectors etc to make up a bench harness.


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 19, 2014, 10:04:33 AM
Oh and if it's helps, it's a UK car (yep I'm British lol)


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 20, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
Ok so I've bit the bullet and sent my ECU to have the Immo-off (my bank account is now £110 lighter) and will be receiving it back within the next 48hrs.

Can I just confirm that once the ECU has had Immo-off, this will be the end of it and I should not have this issue again? Am I also right in thinking that the ECU shouldn't need bootmode anymore and I can flash via the OBDII port?

Jay


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: oldcarguy85 on January 20, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Ok so I've bit the bullet and sent my ECU to have the Immo-off (my bank account is now £110 lighter) and will be receiving it back within the next 48hrs.

Can I just confirm that once the ECU has had Immo-off, this will be the end of it and I should not have this issue again? Am I also right in thinking that the ECU shouldn't need bootmode anymore and I can flash via the OBDII port?

Jay
sounds kind of steep to immo off the ECU (considering it takes about 5 minutes).  You will be fine to flash over OBD2 with the immo off ECU.  On my GTI, i have to remove one of the cluster fuses to flash or log.  It's the fuse that disables the gauges but keeps the clock and odometer running. 

P.S. - you can do bootmode in the car.  It's a bit tricky since you have to keep the EEPROM pin grounded while you connect the battery (ecu is powered even if key is off), but it's not too difficult.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 20, 2014, 08:43:12 AM
Hi oldcarguy85,

That was the best price I could find around (1 place wanted £300!) if I remember rightly isn't the fuse no. 11 or 15 for the cluster?

Brilliant, at least with the Immo-off I should be good to go and shouldn't have this issue again? Can I confirm that if I flash via the OBD2 port that the Immo-Off will stay on the ECU? (I'm going to try do a backup of this once I get the ECU back, just in case)

I'm in the process of collecting all the parts to make my own Bench harness so will hopefully never have to send an ECU off again.

I tried to bootmode while the ECU was in the car, I disconnected the battery, put the keys in the ignition (2 clicks), hooked up the ECU, grounded out the pin and connected the battery, everytime I got an ECU cannot be read message, so I don't think it managed to get into bootmode at all.

Thanks!

Jay


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: oldcarguy85 on January 20, 2014, 09:16:55 AM
Hi oldcarguy85,

That was the best price I could find around (1 place wanted £300!) if I remember rightly isn't the fuse no. 11 or 15 for the cluster?

Brilliant, at least with the Immo-off I should be good to go and shouldn't have this issue again? Can I confirm that if I flash via the OBD2 port that the Immo-Off will stay on the ECU? (I'm going to try do a backup of this once I get the ECU back, just in case)

I'm in the process of collecting all the parts to make my own Bench harness so will hopefully never have to send an ECU off again.

I tried to bootmode while the ECU was in the car, I disconnected the battery, put the keys in the ignition (2 clicks), hooked up the ECU, grounded out the pin and connected the battery, everytime I got an ECU cannot be read message, so I don't think it managed to get into bootmode at all.

Thanks!

Jay

Assuming they are defeating the immobilizer in the EEPROM, you should be fine.  It Is possible (as far as i know) to defeat with code in the actual flash, but I highly doubt that will be the case.  Definitely backup the EEPROM and flash before you do anything.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: prj on January 20, 2014, 12:52:39 PM
sounds kind of steep to immo off the ECU (considering it takes about 5 minutes).

Disagree.
If I am doing an immo off professionally locally, I charge similar.
The reason is, that 20% goes straight out of the window as VAT, and another 20% is "income tax", if you want to take money out from the company.
And that's as dividends, if you want it as salary, there's another 30% social tax.

It's a different ballgame, when you are actually paying your taxes. Doing cash in hand it's somewhat steep yes.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: B234R on January 20, 2014, 01:15:31 PM
Disagree.
If I am doing an immo off professionally locally, I charge similar.
The reason is, that 20% goes straight out of the window as VAT, and another 20% is "income tax", if you want to take money out from the company.
And that's as dividends, if you want it as salary, there's another 30% social tax.

It's a different ballgame, when you are actually paying your taxes. Doing cash in hand it's somewhat steep yes.

Exactly.

Most people have no idea at all what it is like to run a business. Or even start one from scratch.
No one notices the amount of work/time that running a business takes and even less that it actually costs a lot of money as well.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: oldcarguy85 on January 20, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
You guys are totally right.  As a legitimate business, that's a totally fair and reasonable price.  As an enthusiast who is cheap about everything, i would never dream of paying that much for an IMMO defeat.  but like I said, I'm cheap!


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: _nameless on January 22, 2014, 07:18:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZSv0n4seBA


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 22, 2014, 07:30:47 AM
Ok, I've now received my ECU back with the immobiliser bypassed (IMMO-OFF) started the car and it run fine, took it for a spin and the car felt good, turned it off and wouldn't start again unless I disconnected the battery for 5 minutes... Spoke to the company who done it and they advised that it could be an issue with the ignition relay, has anybody come across this before?!


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: vdubnation on January 22, 2014, 08:17:10 AM
When it doesn't start do you have a check engine light showing there is com. with the ecu ?


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 22, 2014, 08:37:46 AM
No check engine light and cannot connect to ecu, take the battery off for 5mons, reconnect it, still cannot connect to ecu but the car will start once only and then I have to repeat (take battery off for 5mins, reconnect and it starts)


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: ddillenger on January 22, 2014, 08:43:17 AM
Either your flash, or your eeprom has a bad checksum.


Title: Re: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 22, 2014, 09:05:46 AM
Ok, is there anyone on here from the UK that would be willing to look at this for some beer tokens/money? I haven't got a bench harness so can't do anything with this at the moment


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: jaymk89 on January 22, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
Car has now died completely and won't start no matter what I do, taking the battery off and reconnecting after 5/10/30/60minutes does absolutely nothing. ECU still cannot be read, I have a nasty feeling it has now completely given up.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: ddillenger on January 22, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
Open it up, take pictures of the eeprom. Sounds like someone did a shit soldering job.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: dream3R on January 22, 2014, 04:52:17 PM
Pics,  I'm in the UK and willing to lend a hand if the soldering needs looked at.


Title: Re: Immo Off
Post by: Snow Trooper on January 24, 2014, 09:51:01 AM
Darkshadow I don't know what happen or how you received all the negative feedback on your last acct , but I actually think your pretty helpful

It revolved around him posting files that did not belong to him (stolen) as well as pirated software.  He isn't man enough to roll with the punches so he created a new account because a number next to his name online is clearly a big deal in his life.

Since you asked.

Also, he likes to use his second account for various reasons, like manipulating the karma system and applauding himself in times of need.  http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8351

He is a real solid member and asset to this forum, ha, just kidding.