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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: roman_tyk on January 19, 2014, 12:45:53 PM



Title: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 19, 2014, 12:45:53 PM
I got really strange problem which I have never experienced on any other ECU then BFB/BEX.
Problem exist whenever i want to run only on LAMFA map, values are not taken to the specified lambda.
Of course my KFFDLBTS is = 0 and KFLBTS = 1, in that situation fueling should be based only on LAMFA map, but in practise i still got lean lambda.


Is there any different map which is used for calculating lambda on this ecu?
i would like to turn of egt protection, bts and only run on well prepared lamfa.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: phila_dot on January 19, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
What do you have for ZKLAMFAW?


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 20, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
I got ZKLAMFAW stock, but as far as i know ZKLAMFAW is delaying the onset of LAMFA not determine specified lambda.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: phila_dot on January 20, 2014, 12:40:02 PM
What is stock?

ZKLAMFAW is the alpha constant for the low pass filter and controls the rate of change. Enrichment will occur linearly towards the specified value using the rate of change set by ZKLAMFAW and may never even reach the target if the rate of change is low enough.

Do you have LAMFA defined correctly including the axis'?

There isn't a whole lot that can go wrong.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: nyet on January 20, 2014, 12:41:51 PM
I'm having the same problem on an 1.8t 032LP

ZKLAMFAW set to ffff

lamfa doesn't seem to kick in until BTS is triggered.



Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 20, 2014, 01:12:07 PM
My lamfa is defined correctly, i performed a lot of tests to check what is wrong but no success

(http://s29.postimg.org/nb7h0vceb/lamfa_stock.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nb7h0vceb/)

i found KFZKLAMFA's maps at:
KFZKLAMFAW_0_A at 26D88 8x6 16-bit
KFZKLAMFAW_1_A at 26DE8 8x6 16-bit

(http://s27.postimg.org/lbn6ygqjz/kfzlamfaw.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lbn6ygqjz/)

Should i set those maps to 65535 ? are maps look ok?


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: phila_dot on January 20, 2014, 01:56:05 PM
TLAFA?

B_lamfas?

What variables can you log from the function? lamfaw_w? lamfaws_w?


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 20, 2014, 02:12:53 PM
I am adding excell with logs from me7logger


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: nyet on January 20, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
TLAFA?

B_lamfas?

What variables can you log from the function? lamfaw_w? lamfaws_w?

ME7L fails to detect a LOT of variables needed to debug this :/



Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: nyet on January 20, 2014, 09:59:27 PM
TLAFA

This could be the problem. Stock is 2s

On my 2.7t files, stock is already 0


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 21, 2014, 12:16:16 AM
i tried with TLAFA=0, reaction for actual lambda was faster but original problem still exist (car not running on LAMFA)


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: phila_dot on January 21, 2014, 06:31:34 AM
FF all of ZKLAMFAW.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: roman_tyk on January 21, 2014, 02:43:51 PM
FF all of ZKLAMFAW.

Setting ZKLAMFAW 8x6 maps to FF solved the problem.
Thanks!


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: nyet on January 21, 2014, 03:57:29 PM
You can set them to something a bit lower than ffff to make it look a bit smoother... instead of a cliff...


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: Kacza on March 16, 2016, 03:52:57 AM
Hello. I looking TLAFA for ECU 8E0909518AQ 0010.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: SRT on March 16, 2016, 08:15:42 AM
0x195F9 KFTLAFA_0_A
0x19629 KFTLAFA_1_A


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: Kacza on March 17, 2016, 05:02:48 AM
I looking TLAFA 1x1 map.


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: SRT on March 19, 2016, 02:36:19 AM
I looking TLAFA 1x1 map.
Then you should buy an older car my friend  ;)


Title: Re: Advanced fueling on 1.8T BFB/BEX 518AQ/518AS
Post by: Kacza on March 21, 2016, 01:29:33 PM
So BFB version 0010 AQ hasn't TLAFA 1x1?
The ECU has two maps KFTLAFA?
What they have size?