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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: turboat on March 09, 2014, 07:01:07 AM



Title: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: turboat on March 09, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
What are peoples opinions on keeping the N249, but deleting the SAI pipework? Im missing the SAI pump and the pipework looks like a nasty mess, but the N249 seems to serve a useful purpose and there are a fair few comments on here saying that their car drove worse after deleting the N249.

This is for an AUQ 1.8T from a 2001 Leon.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: userpike on March 09, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
let the n249 do its magic.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: fknbrkn on March 09, 2014, 01:25:33 PM
+1


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: turboat on March 10, 2014, 07:24:11 AM
Cheers guys :) Can I delete the SAI and leave the n249 in place? Happy to make up pipework as necessary. I was planning on doing/getting a SAI delete in the ECU, which I'll upload just as soon as I can get the laptop talking to the ecu.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: fknbrkn on March 10, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
yes
btw you can use the plastic bottle cap with some kind of seal to close hole in air filter box


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: userpike on March 10, 2014, 04:33:22 PM
unless parts are needing to be replaced and cost is an issue, why delete the sai?


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: turboat on March 11, 2014, 07:29:36 AM
unless parts are needing to be replaced and cost is an issue, why delete the sai?

I'm missing a fair bit of the pipework and the SAI pump, so see it as an opportunity to remove pipework that may spring a leak.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: MadCow on March 14, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
yes
btw you can use the plastic bottle cap with some kind of seal to close hole in air filter box

Go to a parts store and buy an expanding plug, google it for pictures.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: diagnosticator on September 11, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
SAI and the N249 solenoid valve are functionally unrelated . Maybe you are thinking of the N112 solenoid valve used to switch vacuum to open the combination valve that controls the air flow from the SAI pump into the exhaust ports? The N249 switches either manifold vacuum/boost pressure or vacuum pressure from the vacuum storage reservoir in the case where the ECU wants to open the DV if there is boost pressure in the intake or during certain low load cruise modes where opening the DV will reduce pumping and throttling losses.


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: nyet on September 11, 2014, 11:08:20 PM
SAI and the N249 solenoid valve are functionally unrelated . Maybe you are thinking of the N112 solenoid valve used to switch vacuum to open the combination valve that controls the air flow from the SAI pump into the exhaust ports? The N249 switches either manifold vacuum/boost pressure or vacuum pressure from the vacuum storage reservoir in the case where the ECU wants to open the DV if there is boost pressure in the intake or during certain low load cruise modes where opening the DV will reduce pumping and throttling losses.

Correct. The N249 has nothing to do with SAI.

N249: Diverter valves
N112: SAI


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: turboat on September 12, 2014, 02:07:41 AM
Got this one done now, sai is long gone. Wierd thing is most of the howtos on doing an sai delete also cover removing the n249, which seems a lot more useful. 


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: nyet on September 12, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
Got this one done now, sai is long gone. Wierd thing is most of the howtos on doing an sai delete also cover removing the n249, which seems a lot more useful. 

You mean the N249 is more useful, or removing it is more useful?



Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: turboat on September 12, 2014, 04:04:26 PM
Keeping the n249 seems useful. It's certainly working well with it still in place


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: nyet on September 12, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
Keeping the n249 seems useful. It's certainly working well with it still in place

Agreed :)


Title: Re: 1.8T SAI delete but keep N249
Post by: gigabyte on September 13, 2014, 06:08:23 AM
The n249 has been bypassed on my car. After reading a few forums seems mixed views about keeping it or losing it. I might plumb mine back in see if there are any noticeable differences.....