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Title: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 02, 2011, 03:45:19 PM
i heared alot that thers software can give u immo code .. anyone have idea about that ?
can u guys explain how to tune starting from A-Z  ?

THANK YOU ALL


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 02, 2011, 05:29:28 PM
i heared alot that thers software can give u immo code .. anyone have idea about that ?
can u guys explain how to tune starting from A-Z  ?

THANK YOU ALL

I seriously try not to flame people but please read at least first 5 pages on each forum here, especially one post where somebody actually posted whole guide before you post something like this. Maybe then you can ask question worth answering in length...

Also, list you car model/year re immobilizer.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: RaraK on May 02, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
do you mean you are looking for the SKC in your immo eeprom?


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: coreyj03 on May 02, 2011, 09:33:12 PM
buy either vag dash com or vag tacho .  i have access to both  but i cant remember which one does immobilizer which i have used on several occasions


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 06:24:38 AM
do you mean you are looking for the SKC in your immo eeprom?

yes sir .. this is my problem .. skc in the immo eeprom and how to recode it .. is there any way to do it away of dealership ? any trusted software or interface ? ..
i have vcds and hex can interface .. but when u wanna change the immo code you need the original code which they dont provide u .. now i have audi a4 1800 turbo 2001 and it wont work because i changed the ecu and ask me for immo code .. i will appricated if u help me ..


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 03, 2011, 08:05:18 AM
do you mean you are looking for the SKC in your immo eeprom?

yes sir .. this is my problem .. skc in the immo eeprom and how to recode it .. is there any way to do it away of dealership ? any trusted software or interface ? ..
i have vcds and hex can interface .. but when u wanna change the immo code you need the original code which they dont provide u .. now i have audi a4 1800 turbo 2001 and it wont work because i changed the ecu and ask me for immo code .. i will appricated if u help me ..

There are three products you can try:
VAG Commander
VAG Tacho
VAG Dash

Reportedly all three have the capability to read the SKC code off the cluster, I have Vag Tacho but it failed doing this on my C5 cluster. I am getting VAG Commander in few days and will report. The Vag Tacho is supposed to be the stuff even though it hasn't worked for me but it would be a safe bet for you to get it and try yanking the code out.

go to ebay to obtain either one.
Cheers.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
AG Tacho
VAG Dash

Reportedly all three have the capability to read the SKC code off the cluster, I have Vag Tacho but it failed doing this on my C5 cluster. I am getting VAG Commander in few days and will report. The Vag Tacho is supposed to be the stuff even though it hasn't worked for me but it would be a safe bt for you to get it and try yanking the code out.

go to ebay to obtain either one.
Cheers.
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i will buy VAG K + CAN COMMANDER V3.6 from chines website ... i dont know ifsomeone used it .. if u have any idea about that let me know plz .. they said it can recode the immo for all vag group ..


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: All_Euro on May 03, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
i heared alot that thers software can give u immo code .. anyone have idea about that ?

I used VagTacho on my 05 GLI 1.8T and it worked perfectly... just plugged in, got the code and recoded my new key. It doesn't work on newer models I was told. Found mine advertised on ebay by a VW mechanic/shop owner in the US.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: carlossus on May 03, 2011, 02:39:38 PM
Any program that can dump the readable part of the E2P will work. There's a thread here somewhere that details how to work out the SKC from the hex.

ah, here http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,300.msg1913.html#msg1913


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: bazaa on May 03, 2011, 02:43:12 PM
Quote
yes sir .. this is my problem .. skc in the immo eeprom and how to recode it .. is there any way to do it away of dealership ? any trusted software or interface ? ..
i have vcds and hex can interface .. but when u wanna change the immo code you need the original code which they dont provide u .. now i have audi a4 1800 turbo 2001 and it wont work because i changed the ecu and ask me for immo code .. i will appricated if u help me ..
you need to read this thread
http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,89.msg271.html#msg271
as you need the skc from both ecu's ,vag tacho alone will be of no help, you will need to read the eeprom of the ecu to get the skc .
bazaa


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 03:09:21 PM
Quote
There are three products you can try:
VAG Commander
VAG Tacho
VAG Dash

Reportedly all three have the capability to read the SKC code off the cluster, I have Vag Tacho but it failed doing this on my C5 cluster. I am getting VAG Commander in few days and will report. The Vag Tacho is supposed to be the stuff even though it hasn't worked for me but it would be a safe bet for you to get it and try yanking the code out.

go to ebay to obtain either one.
Cheers.

what kind of interface i have to use with VAG Tacho ?  i have hex-can the orignal one for vcds .. is that \work ? or i need another one?


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: carlossus on May 03, 2011, 03:19:12 PM
VAG K+CAN Commander 2.5 successfully retrieved my SKC, using a cheap ebay KKL cable - same as I use for Nefmoto.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 03, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
VAG K+CAN Commander 2.5 successfully retrieved my SKC, using a cheap ebay KKL cable - same as I use for Nefmoto.

Really.... chinese clone Vag Commander software or which one?


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
VAG K+CAN Commander 2.5 successfully retrieved my SKC, using a cheap ebay KKL cable - same as I use for Nefmoto.

cool .. is it the china one .. and what about the software where i can get it ? i found VAG K+CAN Commander 1.4 on ebay .. is it the same ? and where can i find 2.5 if not .. thank you


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: carlossus on May 03, 2011, 03:38:50 PM
cool .. is it the china one .. and what about the software where i can get it ? i found VAG K+CAN Commander 1.4 on ebay .. is it the same ? and where can i find 2.5 if not .. thank you

Go here http://www.vag-info.com/VAG%20Group%20products.htm

or

Try typing these words into your internet box "4 shared vag commander 2.5"

The choice is yours.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 03:49:49 PM
cool .. is it the china one .. and what about the software where i can get it ? i found VAG K+CAN Commander 1.4 on ebay .. is it the same ? and where can i find 2.5 if not .. thank you

Go here http://www.vag-info.com/VAG%20Group%20products.htm

or

Try typing these words into your internet box "4 shared vag commander 2.5"

The choice is yours.
dude the full virsion price is 6000 !!!! this tooooo much .. any other ideas ?is that virsion on 4shared work perfectly and give me hat i want ?


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 03, 2011, 03:54:51 PM
cool .. is it the china one .. and what about the software where i can get it ? i found VAG K+CAN Commander 1.4 on ebay .. is it the same ? and where can i find 2.5 if not .. thank you

Go here http://www.vag-info.com/VAG%20Group%20products.htm

or

Try typing these words into your internet box "4 shared vag commander 2.5"

The choice is yours.
man .. thank you so much .. you so greattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 03, 2011, 06:17:01 PM
VAG K+CAN Commander 2.5 successfully retrieved my SKC, using a cheap ebay KKL cable - same as I use for Nefmoto.

Haha, thank you man. Confirem. $15 dollar cable  works fine with the widely available to download Vag commander 2.5. I just hacked into my cluster without any problem and got the log in code... and changed couple other items needed to experiment with certain tuning software that pulls off VIN # from cluster to validate license... ahhaha.

Cheers.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 04, 2011, 10:47:05 AM
VAG K+CAN Commander 2.5 successfully retrieved my SKC, using a cheap ebay KKL cable - same as I use for Nefmoto.

Haha, thank you man. Confirem. $15 dollar cable  works fine with the widely available to download Vag commander 2.5. I just hacked into my cluster without any problem and got the log in code... and changed couple other items needed to experiment with certain tuning software that pulls off VIN # from cluster to validate license... ahhaha.

Cheers.
dude .. i know im just like pain in the ass because i ask silly quastions .. hahaha and the reason that im pretty student beside u for that kinda stuff hahah but whats the differance between the interface u use and the orignal hex can for vcds ? or its the same ? and abou the software i downloaded it from  4shared .. and its zipped file .. i tried to try it but its didnt work .. do u think i have to connect it first for interface to work ? thank you


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: carlossus on May 04, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 04, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.
i downloaded the file vag commander 2.5 on 4shared by carlossus hhaha .. man really thank you so much for ur help .. you even uploaded the file online .. i hope u will help me more after i will try the whole thing tomorow .. thanx again
and i will be appriciated if u tell me how to use it .. is it just to click on motor(open channel) then immo then i choos the immo type .. then read .. tell me if im right and what is the next step plz .. thank you


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 04, 2011, 02:14:46 PM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.

Yeah I got initially stumped on this one too. It tries with CAN and fails... took me a while to figure out where you choose K-line. The interface is definitely cluttered with mysterious buttons :)


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 04, 2011, 02:17:48 PM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.

Yeah I got initially stumped on this one too. It tries with CAN and fails... took me a while to figure out where you choose K-line. The interface is definitely cluttered with mysterious buttons :)
dude ..i found it hahaha but  do u have any idea about the steps to fix immo code ? if u do i will appriciate if u write them to me here .,. thank you


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: carlossus on May 04, 2011, 02:55:08 PM
Let's be clear here. I didnt upload anything, I just indicated that entering a few words in a search box is easy.




Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: julex on May 04, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.

Yeah I got initially stumped on this one too. It tries with CAN and fails... took me a while to figure out where you choose K-line. The interface is definitely cluttered with mysterious buttons :)
dude ..i found it hahaha but  do u have any idea about the steps to fix immo code ? if u do i will appriciate if u write them to me here .,. thank you

Connect to '07 kombi' and hit the middle 'immobilizer' button. New screen will appear, hit "Read". When finished, a box called "PIN" will have a 4 digit value. This is your SKC code.

From here I am no sure, I believe you'd have to go to ECU now and somehow adapt it using the SKC code (prefixed with '0' if 5 digits are needed). I am sure that if you search on google you will find your answers to this one.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 05, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
I can't comment on what you've downloaded, but in v commander you need to make sure you select the k-line interface using the drop down menu.

Yeah I got initially stumped on this one too. It tries with CAN and fails... took me a while to figure out where you choose K-line. The interface is definitely cluttered with mysterious buttons :)
dude .. i tried that .. but it couldnt connect .. and it was retrying 4ever and didnt connect .. the cable i used is the one i have for vcds hex-can ..and it work on vcds perfectly .. do u think the problem is the caple its self ? and i have to buy the recomanded one? 
dude ..i found it hahaha but  do u have any idea about the steps to fix immo code ? if u do i will appriciate if u write them to me here .,. thank you

Connect to '07 kombi' and hit the middle 'immobilizer' button. New screen will appear, hit "Read". When finished, a box called "PIN" will have a 4 digit value. This is your SKC code.

From here I am no sure, I believe you'd have to go to ECU now and somehow adapt it using the SKC code (prefixed with '0' if 5 digits are needed). I am sure that if you search on google you will find your answers to this one.


Title: Re: i need serious help in tuning and immo code
Post by: ziadoov on May 05, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
i heared alot that thers software can give u immo code .. anyone have idea about that ?
can u guys explain how to tune starting from A-Z  ?

THANK YOU ALL

I seriously try not to flame people but please read at least first 5 pages on each forum here, especially one post where somebody actually posted whole guide before you post something like this. Maybe then you can ask question worth answering in length...

dude i tried that .. i couldnt get my answer ... the car i have is 2001 a4 1800T . and the problem is immo code which i cant get .. now im working on vag commander ..and i folowed the steps but it didnt connect to my and the interface i used is  the same interface for vcds by ross-tech .. do u think i have to use another kind of interface and then i will be able to connect ? i will appriciat ur help .. thank you

Also, list you car model/year re immobilizer.