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Technical => Flashing and Chipping => Topic started by: core2lee91 on May 19, 2014, 08:07:29 AM



Title: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 19, 2014, 08:07:29 AM
Hi all;

This is my first post, and I am fairly new to all this. But have been spending a lot of time researching the process behind it and feel fairly confident in ME7x ECU flashing.

Basically, my car is a 2002 1.8T 150 (AUM engine with the K03s Turbo).

After loads of research, this engine is identical to the AUQ engine code fitted to some Golf's after 2002 (inc Anni in the UK), Audi A3, Octavia VRS.etc.etc

All except the map/tune file from the factory.


At the moment, the factory flash is '06A906032HK'

Is there anything stopping me from reading/saving the current .bin and re-flashing it with a stock '06A906032DE' file which would be from an AUQ code Golf (AUQ engine code).


Thanks :)



Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 19, 2014, 08:15:12 AM
Just noticed.. this question was asked in an earlier post  :-[

But.. lol..

My ECU is ME7.5 and so is the map file I am wishing to flash, the ECU's essentially have all the same numbers besides the stock.bin file.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 20, 2014, 12:14:34 PM
Feel I may have been a little vague in what I have asked, but I can assure you I am not just being lazy, i've done a lot of hunting around for other people that have done exactly this so..

ME7.5 --> ME7.5

Also, I am assuming I would need to turn IMMO off before I flash a different file ?


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: userpike on May 20, 2014, 01:41:14 PM
why not just tune your ori file? ..and I thought the 150 hp 1.8t came with the regular k03 and the 180 hp 1.8t came with the k03s.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 20, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
I managed to (finally) get my FT232BL cable to work with Nefmoto, as my old cable gave up the ghost.

The Golf 1.8T came with 3 main engine variants in the UK;

 - 1.8T AGU (K03 Turbo, slightly different internals)
 - 1.8T AUM/AUQ (K03s, VVT)


The AUQ is literally no different to the AUM besides the stock ECU file.

I've read the original .bin Tune file from my ECU and it's 06A906032HJ (not HK as I initially said)
And will be flashing 06A906032HN.bin from the AUQ

Only thing I am unsure about now is the IMMO. Before I do anything will this need to be disbled, and if so, could anyone maybe point me in the right direction?

Thanks :)



Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: userpike on May 20, 2014, 09:22:11 PM
I managed to (finally) get my FT232BL cable to work with Nefmoto, as my old cable gave up the ghost.

The Golf 1.8T came with 3 main engine variants in the UK;

 - 1.8T AGU (K03 Turbo, slightly different internals)
 - 1.8T AUM/AUQ (K03s, VVT)


The AUQ is literally no different to the AUM besides the stock ECU file.

I've read the original .bin Tune file from my ECU and it's 06A906032HJ (not HK as I initially said)
And will be flashing 06A906032HN.bin from the AUQ

Only thing I am unsure about now is the IMMO. Before I do anything will this need to be disbled, and if so, could anyone maybe point me in the right direction?

Thanks :)




the immo stuff is stickied in the Cluster and Immobilizer section of this forum.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: _nameless on May 20, 2014, 09:55:41 PM
why not just tune your ori file? ..and I thought the 150 hp 1.8t came with the regular k03 and the 180 hp 1.8t came with the k03s.
no saame here in the us the aww came 150hp tune with ko3s turbo


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 08:39:25 AM
Feel I am reaching the end of the line getting help with this, driving me mad!!


I did attempt to flash 180BHP 06A906032HN file (as attached) to my 06A906032HJ 150BHP Car.

But guessing the IMMO needs to be adapted as the car just turned over, but would not start.

So flashed it back to it's original.

I know I can just turn off the IMMO using BOOT Mode, but is there a way I can just adapt the attached 180BHP 'HN' file to my original 'HJ' file?

I do appreciate any help at all here.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: ddillenger on May 22, 2014, 10:11:58 AM
One is likely immo-2. Use an immo-3 eeprom and then adapt the immobilizer as detailed by ross-tech (in the sticky in the cluster section).


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
One is likely immo-2. Use an immo-3 eeprom and then adapt the immobilizer as detailed by ross-tech (in the sticky in the cluster section).

Thanks a lot.

I replied to your PM instead of this post, i'm happy to keep everything here to avoid confusion.

My ECU is IMMO3, and I was fairly sure the stock file from the 180BHP AUQ is also IMMO3 (clearly not) but I do know later AUQ was IMMO3.

Would this process be easier if both where IMMO3?




Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
"ddillenger:
Read the eeprom. The login code area will read FF FF. Use the right eeprom for that file."

I have my SKC but does this only apply to swapping clusters as opposed to ECU's?


Is there a way I could read the IMMO over OBD, then edit the tune I wish to flash with the login from the IMMO?


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: ddillenger on May 22, 2014, 11:09:55 AM
I can't be any clearer, so I will use caps.

THE EEPROM IN YOUR ECU IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW FLASH.

TO CONFIRM WHAT I AM SAYING, READ YOUR EEPROM. THE DATA AT 032 AND 033 WILL BE FF FF AS OPPOSED TO THE HN EEPROM WHICH STORES THE LOGIN.

USE THE CORRECT EEPROM FOR YOUR FLASH.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
i'm clearly pissing you off dude.. so thank's anyway, one day i'll be an avid forum mod with several years of experience.

I don't have a bench flashing method at the moment, so bootmode flashing is not something I can easily do.


So.. it's been made very clear the EEPROM is not compatible with the tune I am trying to flash. Is there not a way I could edit the HNtune.bin to match the EEPROM already on my ECU without writing to the IMMO?


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: ddillenger on May 22, 2014, 11:55:45 AM
i'm clearly pissing you off dude.. so thank's anyway, one day i'll be an avid forum mod with several years of experience.

I don't have a bench flashing method at the moment, so bootmode flashing is not something I can easily do.


So.. it's been made very clear the EEPROM is not compatible with the tune I am trying to flash. Is there not a way I could edit the HNtune.bin to match the EEPROM already on my ECU without writing to the IMMO?

I'm not pissed off at all. Just being funny in my own way (lol).

As for editing the HN file to be compatible with your eeprom, not going to happen :(


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 12:09:24 PM
 ;D No worries

Right fair enough lol.

There are a few other 'AUQ' ECU numbers, such as;

06A906032MJ
06A906032DE
.etc

All of which are 180BHP AUQ

Is the reason the specific 'HN' tune I posted not compatible due to the IMMO version, or is it for reasons I think we have both gathered are beyond my capabilities?




Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 22, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
Or.. to rephrase my question and not sound like i'm ignoring your advice :p 


Will I need to update my EEPROM for the immobilizer regardless of which variation I flash to my ECU?


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: tjwasiak on May 23, 2014, 01:12:27 AM
If you already tried flashing not working AUQ dump why won't you try another one if you still insist on using different stock file?
If I were you I would just compare what is different between stock AUM and AUQ files and made a file based on your stock AUM file including those changes... Then you could tweak it further to achieve more then stock TDI-like AUQ tune.


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: sweegie on May 23, 2014, 01:19:54 AM
why not just tune your ori file?

This - x2

Why mess around with eeproms when you can just tweak your original file????


Title: Re: VW 1.8T - 150 -> 180 flash help.
Post by: core2lee91 on May 23, 2014, 01:34:38 AM
This I now understand..

Although ddillenger did try to explain..MULTIPLE TIMES.. it wouldn't work, I didn't fully understand why (duhhhhhhhh  ??? ??? ??? ) where as now I get the fact the ECU flash files part number must match the EEPROM to run, irrelevant of which version of IMMO, or how similar they are.

Was trawling through the search pages and found this..
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4226.msg42303#msg42303

So tried the file and made a lot more sense than the one I pad for, so flashed it and runs excellent and certainly feels much safer than it did before.