Title: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 19, 2014, 09:19:47 PM Howdy. Im new on the forum been reading this stuff for about a year and finally gathered the balls to take the plunge. I have still a lot to learn. I started today with a full read and been using tunerpro and s4tuning wiki to help me out I just have a few questions.
My current platform I believe is a Me7.5 while doing the full read I could not find the memory layout for a Me7.5 so I used the Me7.1 for the S4's now I read somewhere if it wasn't the right memory layout the program wouldn't let you do a read out But im not completely sure my maps are the same as the s4s. So has anyone had an issue with this? Next problem, Im stock turbo with intake and 3 inch exhaust. Now on S4tuning wiki it states to start with fueling but if your staying stage 1-2+ you really don't need to mess with anything but KFLBTS however in tuner pro it states Desired Lambda for component protection. This doesn't make sense to me to add fuel here. Well some sense but little confused whether to touch fueling or not now. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: adam- on May 19, 2014, 11:40:14 PM It depends what year the car is, some were 3.8 and some were 7.5.
Do fuelling, it means you can never go wrong. You'll need a fresh pump, the old one goes weak. This is all covered man, if you can't get the memory layout you're gonna struggle.. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 20, 2014, 04:56:49 AM Howdy. Im new on the forum been reading this stuff for about a year and finally gathered the balls to take the plunge. I have still a lot to learn. I started today with a full read and been using tunerpro and s4tuning wiki to help me out I just have a few questions. Memory layout for me7.5 and me7.1 9/10 are times the same mostly anything 2001+ use 800bb lay out early me7.5 (2000) is 400bb memory layout and early me7.1 s4 (99?)where 400bb too. Worse case you have half the read you want or double it.My current platform I believe is a Me7.5 while doing the full read I could not find the memory layout for a Me7.5 so I used the Me7.1 for the S4's now I read somewhere if it wasn't the right memory layout the program wouldn't let you do a read out But im not completely sure my maps are the same as the s4s. So has anyone had an issue with this? Next problem, Im stock turbo with intake and 3 inch exhaust. Now on S4tuning wiki it states to start with fueling but if your staying stage 1-2+ you really don't need to mess with anything but KFLBTS however in tuner pro it states Desired Lambda for component protection. This doesn't make sense to me to add fuel here. Well some sense but little confused whether to touch fueling or not now. What year is your mk4? 2001+ is 800bb... Oh yeah if you select the wrong memory layout it will still read... Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 07:14:24 AM It depends what year the car is, some were 3.8 and some were 7.5. Do fuelling, it means you can never go wrong. You'll need a fresh pump, the old one goes weak. This is all covered man, if you can't get the memory layout you're gonna struggle.. I finally found a good XDF for tuner pro for my car. However, none of my maps are uniform everything is scatted my Engine Desired Load is basically all at 957 across the board which if this is desired boost would it be linear? Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 07:18:03 AM Memory layout for me7.5 and me7.1 9/10 are times the same mostly anything 2001+ use 800bb lay out early me7.5 (2000) is 400bb memory layout and early me7.1 s4 (99?)where 400bb too. Worse case you have half the read you want or double it. What year is your mk4? 2001+ is 800bb... Oh yeah if you select the wrong memory layout it will still read... I have a 2003 and I used the 800BB but my maps seems scattered nothings linear at all Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: ddillenger on May 20, 2014, 08:03:40 AM I have a 2003 and I used the 800BB but my maps seems scattered nothings linear at all The memory layout has nothing to do with locating the maps. It defines how the file is read. You need to find an xdf for YOUR file. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: userpike on May 20, 2014, 08:27:52 AM why don't you post your ori?
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 08:30:36 AM Yes I realized that now I found two but they don't seem to work for my Ecu. I was using the one from wiki S4tuning but somehow it has disappeared and whenever I re download the XDF it saves as a html and cant use it in tuner pro. And that XDF seemed to be more true considering boost map was actually linear and tapper off the Y axis however made no sense... on all these XDF it doesn't make any sense
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 08:36:53 AM Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: ddillenger on May 20, 2014, 09:11:04 AM attached That read is suspect. 3 checksum errors? Is this a tune? Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 09:28:53 AM Shit forgot I accidently saved over after editing LDRXN on the save all I did was increase that map 25% Ill have to do another read sometime tonight then
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 02:39:58 PM That read is suspect. 3 checksum errors? Is this a tune? Attached A full read no edits Also Connecting info= °6A906032LP 1.8L R4/5VT G 0005 Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 09:16:53 PM Anybody? need a little bit of help here
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: userpike on May 20, 2014, 09:29:24 PM Anybody? need a little bit of help here what exactly do you want help with? There is a definition file in the ECU definition file section of this forum for the 032lp/pl file. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 20, 2014, 10:36:24 PM what exactly do you want help with? There is a definition file in the ECU definition file section of this forum for the 032lp/pl file. I cant seem to find that definition file that's really my only problem at the moment Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: adam- on May 21, 2014, 12:04:11 AM You can't find it?
It's like the third line, I've just woken up from a 18 hour shift and doing the same again today and I found it straight away. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=488.0title= Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 21, 2014, 03:33:44 AM You can't find it? It's like the third line, I've just woken up from a 18 hour shift and doing the same again today and I found it straight away. http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=488.0title= Could you send me a screenshot of your Engine Load Desired (KFMIRL) Map mine doesn't make sense at all Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 21, 2014, 03:49:59 AM Or could anyone post up a screen shot of that map atleast.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: oldcarguy85 on May 21, 2014, 04:27:17 AM Why not post a screenshot of YOURs. People will be happy to tell you if it looks right.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 21, 2014, 04:37:00 AM Why not post a screenshot of YOURs. People will be happy to tell you if it looks right. The map looks better then it has been with other XDFs but I don't see why its going from hundrends then bottom row spikes to 1500 in only one spot. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: ddillenger on May 21, 2014, 11:22:23 AM Try using the original file he posted and see if it's better. If not, I will fix it for you this evening.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 21, 2014, 06:52:28 PM Try using the original file he posted and see if it's better. If not, I will fix it for you this evening. Having no luck tried orginal new one and another onejust posted variables are still as the photo I posted or a solid 957 across almost every row Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: fredrik_a on May 22, 2014, 08:33:37 AM Could you send me a screenshot of your Engine Load Desired (KFMIRL) Map mine doesn't make sense at all Doesn't it? Look at offset 1512A, 16x16. The file you posted looks perfectly fine in that aspect? Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 22, 2014, 09:20:15 AM Yes that does looks perfect to me just trying to change that through tunerpro and Im just not to sure how to. Only map hex spots through editing the xdf in tuner pro I enter the same values and nothing changes. Then my next problem would be basically find all of the maps correct hex as its not just that map. So ill have to see if I can read up on stuff and figure it out. Or if Someone could help that would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: fredrik_a on May 22, 2014, 09:26:24 AM Ok, as WinOLS is my weapon of choice I can't really comment on Tuner Pro as I don't use it. Sorry.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 22, 2014, 09:32:45 AM Actually got it to work except My X axis is definetly not rpms tho lol Ill try out Winols I tried once and just got extremely confused. Are Winlos xdf same as tunerpro?
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 22, 2014, 10:11:20 AM Ok, as WinOLS is my weapon of choice I can't really comment on Tuner Pro as I don't use it. Sorry. Do you have a file in WinOls that I can view to know where to change the values? Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 23, 2014, 04:53:37 AM Do you have a file in WinOls that I can view to know where to change the values? do your self a favor and switch to the 032hs ecu software... full map packs availibleTitle: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 23, 2014, 01:29:36 PM Would that just consist of loading up 032hs stock bin? Then use a xdf to tune that file?
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 23, 2014, 06:49:37 PM Would that just consist of loading up 032hs stock bin? Then use a xdf to tune that file? yupTitle: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 23, 2014, 09:22:13 PM yup Could you point me towards where the xdf file would be ? I found a Stock bin file but no luck with a definition file Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 23, 2014, 10:05:45 PM Could you point me towards where the xdf file would be ? I found a Stock bin file but no luck with a definition file Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: userpike on May 23, 2014, 10:40:17 PM it's definitely there.
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: core2lee91 on May 24, 2014, 12:51:50 AM Unless I am missing something;
http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/wiki/index.php/NefMoto_ECU_Flashing_Software At the very bottom it states which memory map your ECU will use. So mine is; 06A906032HJ so the memory map would be ME7 AM29F800 Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: adam- on May 24, 2014, 12:57:01 AM This has been covered so many times, and I can see why the others are hating on new starts. But, we've all gotta learn somewhere.
That's the memory map for the ECU, not for the file. A map pack is used, be it XDF, KP. The map pack is basically a contents page for your file, it tells the software where to look to see the tables in the file. A more defined map pack allows more changes. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: core2lee91 on May 24, 2014, 02:21:37 AM My mistake, I must have been half asleep when I read the last part of the post.
However, yeh.. as above.. just type 'HS' into the search bar; http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4936.0 Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 24, 2014, 05:42:17 AM Just so all is aware 032hs is the usdm 180 hp awp software from 2002 immo3
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 24, 2014, 08:27:13 AM Just so all is aware 032hs is the usdm 180 hp awp software from 2002 immo3 Assuming your saying this bec my ecu would need to be ImmoDefeated to accept the 032hs? Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 24, 2014, 10:22:31 AM Could anyone check out this file. Im waiting on a 02 bung for my AEM Wideband before I start flashing and logging. Didn't do any checksums yet and Also it is a 032HS map. Just doing as I understand map started with fueling. Did a little with boost not really sure of affect until I get everything set up.
Apologize for all the nooby questions just trying to learn. Im doing maps as I learn them so I can relate. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: _nameless on May 24, 2014, 08:01:33 PM Assuming your saying this bec my ecu would need to be ImmoDefeated to accept the 032hs? INCORRECT Its 100% compatible with your ecu hardware / software Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on May 24, 2014, 08:18:13 PM INCORRECT Its 100% compatible with your ecu hardware / software Yeah i found out it was compatible. Thanks Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on June 30, 2014, 04:32:38 PM Alright figured I wouldn't make another post so her in my current tune a short log do to horrible driver
Having two trouble after fixing one boost not meeting requested had to lower timing at full load. Now problem one Im am only requesting 16 psi but according to my boost gauge im making almost 20 to redline Problem two is why is my AFR hitting .75 or 11 when im requesting 11.6 Im going to look up more information to solve the issue but I figured maybe someone can chime in if they like. Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: ported2flow on June 30, 2014, 06:20:49 PM lamfa too rich
ldrxznk dont modify make it stock fix your kfmiop axis.... Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on June 30, 2014, 09:01:49 PM Thanks took care of that will flash and take logs tomorrow. I still cant see why I am hitting 20psi though
Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: ddillenger on June 30, 2014, 09:14:45 PM Thanks took care of that will flash and take logs tomorrow. I still cant see why I am hitting 20psi though Get me7logger working. Failing to do that, and post csv's will result in limited assistance... Title: Re: Volkswagen Gti 1.8t Post by: TopNotch on July 01, 2014, 05:47:47 AM Get me7logger working. Failing to do that, and post csv's will result in limited assistance... The log1.xlsx is from me7 logger i just had a bunch of random logs from when i got me7 working all in one cvs. So made a separate document because it was all in one. The log1 is a excel sheet of a log from around 3000 to 5500 ish |