NefMoto

I have a 2005 MK4 Jetta 2.0 and am trying to install an MFA gauge cluster out of a 2005 GLI. So they're both imm3. I have the SKC off of both clusters. I got everything for the MFA wired properly, but it's just the programming I'm having issues with. We're using a registered version of VCDS-lite with an ebay cable.

When the new cluster is installed and I go to 17 - Instruments, it let's me log in just fine with the new cluster SKC (0xxxx). But it won't let me do anything past that. The immobilizer light will continue blinking after I log into the cluster, then I go to Channel 50 and everything seems normal and I can enter the old SKC to try to adapt the cluster to it. But when I click "Do It!" it just comes back with an error "SYSTEM NOT OK". It won't let me program the soft coding from the old cluster either. The old clusters soft coding was 15232 and the new one is 15230. Any time I try to recode to 15232 it seems to go through with no errors but when the Instrument page reloads it still shows the old soft coding. Nothing seems to go through on the cluster and I can't understand why.

I read on one guide to check the cluster for fault codes, and to clear them, but a immobilizer code should always come back. I remember an immobilizer code when I first checked codes but it never came back and it still hasn't come back...

This is what it looks like when I check measuring blocks 23 & 24. As well as the error I get when trying to program the SKC. Notice the immobilizer status is at 6. I was told it should be at 4. Looking at (http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/car...ng-blocks.html) they say 6 means it's operating as normal and the immobilizer has been adapted? It's always at 6 whether I'm logged into the cluster or not.
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I have the EEPROM dumps off of both clusters, I saw somewhere that someone was able to transfer his key/immo/skc/vin from the old eeprom to the new one? Is that easily do able?


I need some insight so someone please help cause I have no idea why this isn't working lol, sorry for the long post but I tried to be as descriptive as possible lol. I'm wondering if it's because I'm trying to program a 1.8t cluster to a 2.0 car?

Is your ecu immo off'd? I think that will stop this adaptation working.

No it isn't everything is as is from the factory on the ECU. When I put the new cluster in and turn the key to the on position the "Immo. Activated" message comes up on the MFA screen. I thought recoding the SKC on the cluster followed by adapting my keys to the cluster would take care of that? Obviously if my immobilizer was defeated on the ECU I wouldn't be having this problem, but I'm trying not to do that for now, haha.

ive had mk4 clusters that wouldnt adapt for no other reason than they just wanted to tell me to fuck off, system not ok. ive always just cloned the e2p in that situation.
you can transfer immo data from one to the other. probably the best solution in your situation.

Go into the CANBUS module.

put in the coding from the original cluster. If its the same you still have to re-do it. Don't just leave it. Actually re type it in and press do it.
Then do the adaptation.
recoding the canbus always allows me to adapt a GLI/GTI cluster to a lesser model car.

And how would I go about doing that? I'm clueless as to what I'm looking for in the eeprom or how to modify it, haha. I just have the files.


I should've mentioned that I did that first. The guide I was following said to go in there and recode it to 00006, which I did. And that didn't make a difference at all.

Post both files.

Stock non mfa cluster: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhl085l0v75y543/Stock%20Original.bin

MFA Cluster: https://www.dropbox.com/s/78n8wfl2i4mg9p0/MFA%20Original.bin

Let me know.
Did this while going out the door.

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Thank you! Reflashed the cluster and then reset the ecu and worked immediately!

Your welcome

F1torrents - what did you do here? Set the SKC/Vin/Immo ID in the new cluster to the same as in the old cluster? is there other magic required?

I've got the same issue trying to adapt an octavia vrs cluster onto a leon AUQ ecu

It's easy, just compare old and new fixed bin. He has moved Car Key Codes, Immo ID, Immo Code, Vin, SKC, Mileage

Sorry, should have thought to diff the files. Thanks automan!

*feeling dumb*

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I'm back again... The car that I put this cluster in got totaled :( But I kept the cluster and wanna put it in the new car. I already got a dump of the current cluster in the new car. Any chance someone could transfer the important stuff from the stock cluster to the mfa cluster? I've attached bin files of both clusters.

Anyone? I've managed to transfer the vin/skc/immo id over. But I'm not sure what else needs to be done and where they are in the eeprom.

Diff the previous two files, then use those addresses... if you look a few posts back there was an example diff.

I saw that, I had them all side by side. But it appears that the eeprom on the 03 cluster is slightly different than the 05 cluster. I know it will work in the car they're both immo3, but I don't wanna change anything wrong in the eeprom and possibly brick the cluster..

bump again. attempted adapting the cluster to the car today via vcds, as expected the cluster put up the same fight it did going into my old jetta. I then flashed the halfway done file that I was able to get done, and no different. With the immo id, vin, and skc on there I should've been able to adapt the keys yes? I keep on getting an error when trying to clear the current keys attached to the cluster.


Maybe someone else can finish the file I couldn't?

Right after your login code in the ecu eeprom is the 7 byte lock code. There are several threads from the past few weeks that discuss this very thing (which is why noone is answering). They are complete with addresses, and examples.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6161.0

Is this not the same problem you're having?

That's for the ecu though, I tried getting an eeprom dump of the ecu using that tool but it didn't wanna work for me. From that thread it seems all that's left that I need to transfer is the key information. Which I don't know where that's located in the eeprom. If I could I would compare the original MFA eeprom and the eeprom set up for my old car to find what blocks that info is located, but as I said.. the 03 cluster's eeprom seems to be slightly different than the mfa cluster's eeprom, so I'm sure it's not in the same location.
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Test again and make a print screen from measeringblock 022

If I remember correctly VDO clusters from something like V6x uses a different processor, them eeprom content have different organization. I had similar situation going from a VDO V55 to a VDO V75 one. It is not that easy to just copy eeprom zones. I think that adaptation will be the best option in this case.