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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 06:34:14 AM



Title: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 06:34:14 AM
Hey

So iv been searching for a few days now to try achieve some protection for my files,

I have read you can do it by editing the seed key using winols and you can do the noread tag in winols and im sure there a few more ways that id like to learn about too.

so far iv tried the noread tag in winols but couldnt see it making any difference when i open the file on another laptop using winols

iv searched for may hours trying to find the seed key and any info relating to it but havent come right

i know this protection is only a small obstacle and if someone wants the file they will get it using bootmode

Please guys help me out

heres a pic of what i tried in winols for the no read tag

the car im trying this on is a seat ibiza fr 2006
bosch edc15p+
heres a stock file


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 06:38:05 AM
forgot to attach stock file


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: quattrotr on July 03, 2014, 07:29:23 AM
Is it your personal car? Why you would that on your own car?


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 09:00:25 AM
yes its my personal car.

i want it because the theory to do it on another file for another car would be the same.
and it seem like a cool feature .

i dont sell maps or run a tuning company i do this for my personal gain of knowledge and interest


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 12:10:02 PM
Thanks  DDillenger and the tuning turtle for the help with the NOREAD tag .

Could someone please help with editing the seed key  ;D


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: quattrotr on July 03, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
Seed key is not like ticking on ols on a simple box, if you are not aware what you are doing you may lock the ECU easily.


Title: Re: Re: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 03, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
Seed key is not like ticking on ols on a simple box, if you are not aware what you are doing you may lock the ECU easily.
Could you explain how it's done so I can understand why


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: matchew on July 03, 2014, 11:54:58 PM
Changing the seed key will give you nothing in EDC15, real tools will still be able to read and write the ECU.


Title: Re: Re: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 04, 2014, 12:00:41 AM
Changing the seed key will give you nothing in EDC15, real tools will still be able to read and write the ECU.
But would changing the key stop tools like the galleto and Mpps clones


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: nyet on July 04, 2014, 10:40:34 AM
Utterly pointless.

There are a million more interesting (and useful) things to work on.


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: NOTORIOUS VR on July 05, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
Especially since all it's still quite easy to by-pass it all anyway.


Title: Re:
Post by: Punda on July 06, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Thanks guy ya I relised it's easy to get around and gonna rather look into something els. The knowledge of some of the guys in this forum is hectic been reading the reverse engineering threads


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Snow Trooper on July 08, 2014, 09:52:35 AM
How much are you looking for? If I purchase your tuning firm will I get all IP? Are the new special tricks and custom code that no one else has all ironed out? That is really what we are all after, that and the new way you mapped stuff like idle rpm and injector sizing, mind blowing stuff. Good thing you are using security.


Title: Re: Re: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: Punda on July 15, 2014, 11:38:35 AM
How much are you looking for? If I purchase your tuning firm will I get all IP? Are the new special tricks and custom code that no one else has all ironed out? That is really what we are all after, that and the new way you mapped stuff like idle rpm and injector sizing, mind blowing stuff. Good thing you are using security.

Hey, I do this as a hobby and the only gain being knowledge and interest.

To change idle rpm and code for different size injectors use the" search " it's pretty easy to tune for


Title: Re: Re: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: cerips on July 15, 2014, 12:05:29 PM
To change idle rpm and code for different size injectors use the" search " it's pretty easy to tune for

He know this, it was sarcasm  ;)


Title: Re:
Post by: Punda on July 16, 2014, 04:57:17 AM
Quote
To change idle rpm and code for different size injectors use the" search " it's pretty easy to tune for
He know this, it was sarcasm  ;)


Thanks


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: eazydaz on April 22, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
any solution for obd lock for reading edc15?? I am ready to pay for working solution


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: prj on April 22, 2015, 02:07:29 PM
There is code in ROM on EDC15, forget it. The correct tool will ALWAYS read it.


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: eazydaz on April 23, 2015, 02:01:02 PM
and china clone will be always read it too?


Title: Re: ECU Protection... help plz
Post by: SRT on April 24, 2015, 03:50:59 AM
I know a way to block OBD reading in EDC15P file (eg 038906019HJ).
Change byte at address 0x7FF48 to 0x00.
I don't know any "real tool" but at least it blocks Byteshooter, CMD, MPPS, Optican, AVDI, Galetto, Digiflash ..

Unfortunately it blocks OBD writing too!