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Title: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: s4boost on June 01, 2011, 12:12:08 AM So my car is running like poop. I just went frankenturbo stage 3 with vasts stages 3 fuel kit and tune. The code i'm getting is 17964 (negative boost deviation) and the car goes into soft limp mode between 5000 and 6000 rpms at WOT. Vast needs logs. I have vag com, but its an older version. None of the newer versions will run on my laptop. I've tried both windows 7 and XP to get a newer version working. Vast wants logs, and the logs i took with vag com only have about 6-7 time stamps (per block) while logging two blocks in a 3rd gear pull from 2500 rpms to redline.... thats crap IMO. So i need ECUx.
Problem is, why the crap should i pay 250$ 1. to get my car running right when it should be basically an "out of the box tune." GIAC can do it, why can't vast? my "custom" tune isnt that involved ie: frankenturbos, 60lb. ev14s, 90mm maf and intake, rs4 replica inlets, straight piped piggies, SS auto chrome cat-back, vast W/M, deatchwerks 300lph fuel pump. So in my opinion, this shouldn't be anything new to vast. 2. why should i pay APR 250$ for a program that is no longer supported. i recieved an email today from them stating plain and clear, "this program is no longer supported" and one rep even said it's no longer sold... which isn't true, but regardless, It's absolutely ridiculous for a company to expect us to continue paying top dollar for a program they no longer support. So my real question here is, why the heck hasnt anyone cracked this program? Anyone with a tuned s4 practically needs it and the price is outrageous considering support. I know Nef is programming something, but when will it be done and will it be a "better" replacement? I need to get this car running right. If anyone can help me out with this under the table, please let me know. I'm in no way bashing APR or Vast, i like both companies very much, however, i will gladly vocalize to both of them my opinions being that i shouldnt have to pay another company 250$ for some software to log my car, and i shouldnt have to pay 250$ for a program that some APR reps arent even aware exists. my 02 cents. Thanks for any support from you guys. Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: s4boost on June 01, 2011, 08:04:38 PM any one?
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: orienz on June 02, 2011, 10:50:37 AM No, you should pay APR $250 for a good logging program.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: Jason on June 04, 2011, 01:38:36 PM I think there's a big difference between "good logging program" and "the only logging program" out there.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: vwaudiguy on June 04, 2011, 02:56:36 PM ^^ Haha true. There are many people using it, and it is pretty buggy, but once you get everything figured out it does work. They are not developing it anymore, and the fella who was responsible for creating it has left APR, so that's why they don't offer support. It was originally designed to be used in-house anyway. You could also purchase VCDS and tweak the sampling rate along with a faster laptop and you should get better resolution, or log in a higher gear. ;)
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: phila_dot on June 04, 2011, 03:28:26 PM ECUx is extremely limited in the variables you can log. It only supports the very basics. VCDS is too slow.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: nyet on June 04, 2011, 06:04:31 PM One of the single most irritating things about proprietary software is the potential for abandonware.
Pathetic. I wonder how much it would cost to purchase the source code from those asshats. After all, money talks in that culture, does it not? Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: vwaudiguy on June 05, 2011, 12:35:13 AM I like where this thread is going. I wonder how often they even sell it now..Is there any other way to get the source code?
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: Snow Trooper on June 17, 2011, 10:37:35 AM If you ask them super nice and have basically any good reason to use it other than competing with APR then they will give it to you.
Seriously, just ask. Take the time to download it, install it, have your code you need to send them ready and e-mail someone with a technical role there, not just some sales person. ;) And people can hate on ecux all they want but once you iron it out it works and what better option has anyone created that you can actually get, free or not? I do agree with Nye that its a giant bummer its been sent to the bone yard and has no support. Maybe we should all ask for the source code? I doubt it could hurt anything current that they actually do to make $$$ Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: RaraK on June 17, 2011, 10:57:02 AM ECUx is cracked and freely available on a certain UK forum......if you dont want to buy it
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: carlossus on June 17, 2011, 11:35:57 AM ...And cue 1000 pm's :)
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: vwaudiguy on June 17, 2011, 12:44:03 PM Yea, right? It would probably be less hassle to just post the forum it's on.. :)
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: RaraK on June 27, 2011, 06:50:27 AM Digital Kaos
ECUx is not terribly difficult to crack either, we just need one person on here with a good version and you must change your volume ID to match what theirs is and install. Do this in a XP VM and you are golden. Thats it. Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: imolasb5 on June 27, 2011, 07:09:44 PM Digital Kaos ECUx is not terribly difficult to crack either, we just need one person on here with a good version and you must change your volume ID to match what theirs is and install. Do this in a XP VM and you are golden. Thats it. This is true. It is relatively easy once you get a reg file from someone that is willing to hand it over. Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: marfcus on June 28, 2011, 10:48:33 AM Once you get it installed, the problem then becomes trying to get the right properties files. And that's where I'm currently hung up. I've got files 100-164. Anyone have a clue which one is for a 2003 gti 6sp. :-\
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: bazaa on June 28, 2011, 11:24:06 AM ECU Explorer Property Files
Updated- 12/21/06 Property File Supported ECUs VAG100 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2002 1.8T 06A906032HS S0006 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2002 6-spd 1.8T 06A906032ML S0001 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032HJ S0002 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032KP S0203 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2001 1.8T 06A906032EN S0002 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2002 Auto 1.8T 180hp 06A906032HF S0005 Audi A3, Seat Leon Cupra EURO MY2002 1.8T 180hp 06A906032HN S0001 Audi A3, Seat Leon Cupra EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032HK S0002 Audi A3, Seat Leon Cupra EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032HR S0001 Audi A3, Seat Leon Cupra EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032HP S0001 Audi TT NA MY2002 1.8T 180HP 8N0906018AL S0004 Audi TT EURO MY2001 1.8T 180hp 8N0906018AQ S0001 Audi TT EURO MY2002 1.8T 180HP 8N0906018AM S0001 Audi TT EURO MY2003 1.8T 180HP 8N0906018AP S0001 VAG101 VW New Beetle EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032LS S4529 VW New Beetle EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032LR S4525 VW New Beetle NA MY2003 1.8T 06A906032KR S4527 VAG102 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2003 1.8T 06A906032LP S0005 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2003 Auto 1.8T 06A906032LQ S0005 VAG103 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2003 1.8T 06A906032PL S0003 VAG104 VW Golf,Jetta,Bora NA MY2001 5-spd. 1.8T 06A906032DL S0003 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2001 5-spd 1.8T 06A906032GH S0002 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2001 5-spd 1.8T 06A906032DR S0003 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2001 5-spd 1.8T 06A906032KE S0001 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2002 1.8T 06A906032EP S0001 VAG105 VW New Beetle NA MY2000 1.8T 5spd 06A906032C S3077 VW New Beetle NA MY2000 1.8T Auto 06A906032A S3157 VW New Beetle EURO MY2000 1.8T 5spd 06A906032CK S3099 VAG106 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2000 1.8T 06A906032CL S0004 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2000 1.8T Auto 06A906032CM S0005 VAG107 Audi TT EURO MY1999-2000 1.8T 180HP 8N0906018A S0010 VAG108 VW New Beetle NA MY1999.5 1.8T 5spd 06A906032E S2730 VAG109 Audi S3 EURO MY2000 1.8T 210HP 8L0906018N S0002 Audi TT EURO MY2000 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8L0906018M S0002 VAG110 Audi TT NA MY2001 1.8T 180HP Quattro 8N0906018L S0003 Audi TT EURO MY2002 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018H S0004 Audi TT EURO MY2002 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018AH S0004 Audi S3 EURO MY2001 1.8T 210HP 8N0906018J S0003 Audi S3 EURO MY2001 1.8T 210HP 8N0906018AG S0003 Audi S3 EURO MY2002 1.8T 225HP 8N0906018BH S0001 Audi S3 EURO MY2002 1.8T 225HP 8N0906018BJ S0001 Seat Leon Cupra R MY2002 1.8T 210bhp 1ML906032 S0001 Audi A3, Skoda Octavia RS EURO MY2001 1.8T 180hp 06A906032BJ S0002 Seat Leon Cupra R MY2003 1.8T 210bhp 1ML906032A S0001 VAG111 Audi TT EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018CB S0003 Audi TT EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018CC S0002 Audi S3 EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018BQ S0002 Audi S3 EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018BP S0002 VAG112 Audi TT NA MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018BB S0002 Audi TT EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018BE S0002 VAG113 Audi TT NA MY2001 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018K S0003 VAG114 Seat Ibiza Cupra R EURO MY2001 1.8T 180hp 6K0906032AB S0001 Seat Ibiza Cupra EURO MY2000 1.8T 6K0906032 S0002 VAG115 Audi TT NA MY2004 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018CJ S0001 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2004 1.8T 06A906032NK S0003 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2004 1.8T 06A906032NL S0003 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2004 1.8T 06A906032RN S0001 VAG116 Audi TT NA MY2000 1.8T 180HP Quattro 8N0906018S S0007 Audi TT NA MY2000 1.8T 180HP FWD 8N0906018M S0006 VAG117 Seat Ibiza FR EURO MY2004 1.8T 150hp 06A906032QN S0010 VAG118 Audi TT NA MY2000 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018T S0003 VAG119 Audi A6 NA MY2002 2.7T 6-spd 4B0907551AK S0001 Audi A6 NA MY2002 2.7T Tip 4B0907551AL S0001 Audi AllRoad NA MY2002 2.7T Tip 4Z7907551M S0001 Audi AllRoad NA MY2002 2.7T 6-spd 4Z7907551L S0001 Audi A6 EURO MY2002 2.7T Tip 4B0907551AH S0002 Audi A6 EURO MY2003 2.7T Tip 4B0907551AJ S0002 VAG120 Audi S4 NA MY2001 2.7T 6-spd Manual 8D0907551M S0001/S0002 Audi S4 NA MY2001 2.7T Tiptronic 8D0907551L S0001 VAG121 Audi S4 NA MY2000 2.7T 8D0907551A S0003 Audi A6 NA MY2000 2.7T 6-spd 4B0907551K VAG122 Audi S4 NA MY2002 2.7T 8D0907551T S0003 Audi S4 NA MY2002 2.7T Tip 8D0907551AA S0003 VAG123 Audi S4 NA MY2001 2.7T Tiptronic 8D0907551J S0003 Audi S4 NA MY2001 2.7T 6spd Manual 8D0907551H S0003 VAG124 Audi RS6 NA MY2003 4.2 Twin Turbo 4D1907558D S0002 VAG125 Audi S4 EURO MY2000 2.7T 6-spd Manual 8D0907551D S0002 VAG126 Audi S4 EURO MY1998 2.7T 8D0907551C S0002 VAG127 Audi AllRoad NA MY2001 2.7T 6-spd 4Z7907551 S0003 Audi AllRoad NA MY2001 2.7T Tip 4Z7907551K S0002 Audi AllRoad EURO MY2002 2.7T Tip 4Z7907551D S0002 Audi AllRoad EURO MY2002 2.7T 4Z7907551H S0002 Audi A6 EURO MY2001 2.7T 4B0907551S S0001 Audi A6 EURO MY2001 2.7T 4B0907551AD S0001 Audi A6 NA MY2001 2.7T 6-spd 4B0907551AA S0001 Audi A6 NA MY2001 2.7T Tip 4B0907551T S0001 VAG128 Audi RS4 EURO MY2003 2.7T 8D0907551F S0001 VAG129 Audi A4 EURO MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518AC S0001 VAG130 VW Passat NA MY2003 1.8T 4B0906018DL S0001 VW Passat NA MY2003 1.8T 4B0906018DH S0002 VW Passat NA MY2003 1.8T 4B0906018DJ S0002 VAG131 VW Passat NA MY2003 1.8T 4B0906018DA S0006 VAG132 Audi A4 EURO MY2002 1.8T 8E0906018B S0004 VAG133 Audi A6 NA MY2001 2.7T Tip 4B0907551Q S0002 Audi A6 NA MY2001 2.7T 6-spd 4B0907551P S0002 Audi AllRoad NA MY2002 2.7T 6-spd 4Z7907551L S0002 VAG134 Audi RS4 EURO MY2001,2002 2.7T 8D0907551K S0001 VAG135 Audi A4 EURO MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518AH S0002 VAG136 Audi A4 NA MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518F S0001 VAG136A Audi A4 NA MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518F S0002 VAG137 Audi A6 NA MY2004 2.7T 4Z7907551S S0010 VAG138 Audi A4 EURO MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518P S0001.bin VAG139 Audi A4 EURO MY2004 1.8T 8E0909518AT S0003 VAG140 Audi S4 NA MY2004 4.2L 6spd Manual 8E0910560A S0020 VAG141 VW Golf R32 EURO MY2003 3.2L 022906032CP S0001 VAG142 VW Golf,R32 NA MY2003 3.2L 022906032EG S5626 VAG143 VW Golf,Jetta NA MY2003 VR6 24V 022906032CS S0004 VAG144 Audi TT EURO MY2004 3.2L 250HP Quattro 022906032DP S0006 VAG145 Audi A4 NA MY2004 1.8T 8E0909518AK S0003 VAG146 Audi A4 NA MY2005 1.8T 8E0909518BC S0010 VAG147 Audi A4 NA MY2003 1.8T 8E0909518AF S0001 VAG148 Audi A3, Seat Leon Cupra EURO MY2001 1.8T 180hp 06A906032DE S0001 VAG149 VW New Beetle MY2001 1.8T 5spd 06A906032FD S3595 VW New Beetle NA MY2001 1.8T 06A906032EM S3594 VW New Beetle EURO MY2001 1.8T 06A906032CN S3592 VW New Beetle EURO MY2001 1.8T 06A906032CP S3593 VW New Beetle EURO MY2001 1.8T 06A906032GP S3676 VW New Beetle EURO MY2001 1.8T 06A906032GQ S3749 VAG150 VOLVO NA MY2004 VAG151 VOLVO NA MY2004 Updated VAG152 Audi A4 NA MY2001 1.8T 4B0906018CH S0001 VAG153 Audi A6 NA MY2004 2.7T Tip 4Z7907551R S0003 VAG154 Seat Leon, Cupra EURO MY2004 1.8T 06A906032SJ S0010 VAG155 Seat Ibiza Cupra EURO MY2001 1.8T 6K0906032AA S0002 Seat Ibiza Cupra EURO MY2001 1.8T 6K0906032AQ S0001 VAG156 Audi TT EURO MY2004 1.8T 180hp 8N0906018CN S0010 VAG157 Audi A4 EURO MY2004 1.8T 8E0909518BA S0001 VW Passat NA MY2004 1.8T 4B0906018DP S0002 VAG158 Audi A4 EURO MY2003 1.8T 8E0909518AL S0002 Audi A4 EURO MY2003 1.8T 8E0909518AM S0002 Audi A4 EURO MY2004 1.8T 8E0909518AN S0002 VAG159 Audi A4 NA MY2000 1.8T 4B0906018P S0008 Audi A4 NA MY2000 1.8T Quattro Tip 4B0906018Q S0008 Audi A4,Passat NA MY2000 1.8T 4B0906018BG S0008 Audi A4,Passat NA MY2000 1.8T Tip 4B0906018BH S0006 VAG160 Audi A4 EURO MY2002 1.8T 8E0909518AA S0004 VAG161 Audi S3 EURO MY2000 1.8T 210HP 8L0906018 S0003 TT EURO MY2000 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018F S0003 VAG162 Bentley NA MY2005 6.0L Twin Turbo 07C906018DJ S7951 VAG163 Seat Leon,Toledo EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032MJ S0003 Audi TT EURO MY2003 1.8T 225HP Quattro 8N0906018BR S0001 Audi A3, Skoda Octavia RS EURO MY2004 1.8T 180hp 06A906032HN S0002 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032JG S0002 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032HL S0002 VW Golf,Bora EURO MY2003 1.8T 06A906032JH S0002 VAG164 Seat Ibiza Cupra R EURO MY2005 1.8T 180hp 06A906032RQ S0010 Seat Ibiza Cupra R EURO MY2005 1.8T 180hp 06A906032RP S0010 VW Golf,Polo EURO MY2006 6-spd 1.8T 06A906032TL S0040 VW Golf,Polo EURO MY2006 5-spd 1.8T 06A906012M S0020 Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: marfcus on June 28, 2011, 01:00:06 PM Wow! I looked through that list of properties files about 10 times before you posted it. And somehow I managed to not see the the vag1xx at the beginning of each group every single time until you just posted that up hahaha. Thank you.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: bazaa on July 03, 2011, 02:03:58 AM after some trial and error getting this to work trying the different property files I found that it did with a non listed vag file .
I then googled the vag163 , and found a new list which showed all the propery files . I have attached the list and altered my previous post. Barry Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: s4rmm on July 05, 2011, 01:02:02 AM If my ECU (551G) is not in this list, I can't use ECUx?
Or can I create a new property-file myself? Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: nyet on July 05, 2011, 09:30:25 AM I've always wanted to know how to create (or modify) the ECUx property files. I would be really nice to add RAM locations and/or adjust scaling.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: carlossus on July 05, 2011, 12:14:32 PM Are the property files signed with the licensee's details (making them installation specific)?
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: nyet on July 05, 2011, 12:22:19 PM No idea. I confess I haven't looked too deeply at them. Maybe its time I did.
Title: Re: ECUx... reverse engineer? Post by: vwaudiguy on July 05, 2011, 12:33:04 PM They are not.
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