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Title: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 13, 2014, 11:18:13 AM
I have a 2000 VW Cabrio MK3.5 with 2.0 ABA motor,   IMMO2 6H0 953 257B  and ECU 037 906 018A. I need to make a second key to the car, but I need my SKC or PIN code. Is it retrievable over OBD2 from the ECU? I looked around and people are talking about ME7 programmer. Can I use it on this car with the original serial cable HEX+CAN of Ross Tech? Is this ECU ME7 also?
Thank you


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 13, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
After some more reading I got my original VAG COM serial cable with the Boot in intelligent mode unchecked and tried to download the ECU bin using me7_95040.exe over OBD with no luck. The baudrate was 10400. Even when I set it to 9600 it reported that it was connecting at 10400. This is an IMMO2 car and it has a separate IMMO 2 module. VAG TACHO and  commander 2.5 are not working on this car to retrieve the SKC either. I am trying to avoid opening the IMMO box and desoldering the chip so I can put it in an EEPROM programmer and dump it.
Any help guys will be highly appreciated. I went to two locksmiths and they couldn't program my second key.


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: k0mpresd on October 13, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
you need to pull the immo box and read the 24c04.
nothing will work over obd.

come on people. try to educate yourself. just because theres a tool for one type of ecu doesnt mean it works for everything. of course the 95040 tool doesnt work. theres no 95040. the cabrio is using a completely different flavor ecu!


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 14, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
This is what I couldn't find anywhere and I turned here to educate myself:)
Can you please also tell me at which address of the dump is the PIN stored?
Thank you


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 14, 2014, 06:35:07 AM
One more question. Does this immo 6H0 953 257B has TMS370 or a 24c04?


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: k0mpresd on October 14, 2014, 08:12:45 AM
you havent searched very hard to educate yourself. because i personally have already posted the information you asked.


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 14, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
I did read this http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4466.msg44613 .
But that information is for the 6X0 953 257  and not for the 6H0 953 257B. Are you saying that they are both the same? Because from what I read the eeprom on the 6H0 is a TMS370. I have no first hand experience and the information I read could be wrong. So please let me know.


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: k0mpresd on October 14, 2014, 04:59:38 PM
post vcds scan showing thats the part number of your immo box.


Title: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: Tshirt2k on October 15, 2014, 03:40:48 AM
Vag tacho can get you the pin. Not sure if it's the same as the mk3 golf with separate immo box . But you need a working key in ignition to get the pin. From this you "should" be able to code a key.


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 15, 2014, 05:08:23 AM
Here is the log


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 15, 2014, 05:10:31 AM
Vag tacho can get you the pin. Not sure if it's the same as the mk3 golf with separate immo box . But you need a working key in ignition to get the pin. From this you "should" be able to code a key.
I tried that with no luck. I also had two locksmiths try with professional equipment. Not is a rush to get this code out, but having one key on an immo car is not smart :)


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on October 15, 2014, 10:32:50 AM
If its any help this is the information of this immobilizer. My car is a NA 2000 Cabrio MK3.5
VW, Seat IMMO2 immo box Siemens
Memory device is Texas Instrument MCU TMS370C702 PLCC28 package.
Expected file size is 256 bytes.
Use PCF7935 or Silca T15 - JMA TP14 transponder.
Vehicles equipped with this unit:
VW: Caddy(1998 - 2000), Golf cabrio, Lupo( - 2000). Polo 3(1998-2000), Sharan (1998-2000), Transporter(1998-2000)
Seat: Arosa(-2000), Cordoba Vario(-2000), Ibiza(1998-2000), Inca(1998-2000)
Ford: Galaxy



Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: k0mpresd on October 15, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
i have to say, ive done a few cabrios by just pulling the box and have never seen one of those boxes. most of the googling of that number i found on forums seems to be all european stuff.
the only way still is to pull it and dump the chip.


Title: Re:
Post by: EngTrouble on October 26, 2014, 01:34:16 AM
Hi,
Just read TMS IC and post dump here and one of us will be able to tell you your pin.
Best Regards
                Luis


Title: Re: Cabrio MK3.5 SKC IMMO PIN
Post by: s8s4vw on December 03, 2014, 04:33:14 PM
I finally have a second key to my car. The procedure for my 2000 Cabrio was to remove the immo box desolder the chip read it and find the PIN. Then I had to order a key from the UK. There is this UK website that makes keys from a picture. I ended up ordering from them because I could not find a blank with the transponder chip ID42 in the States at a reasonable price. The ones from eBay had ID48 transponder chip. I bought 2 of those cut one, and I was unable to program it to work with my car.
To future people who happen to have this immo box 6H0 953 257B and need a spare key, make sure you find the right blank with ID42 (T10) transponder.


Thank you guys for all your help.