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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: aef on November 09, 2014, 12:38:21 PM



Title: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 09, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
Hello,

here is a video of my loop of death problem with my stroked 1.8t
This occurs when i am manoeuvring for parking.
it although happens when i start driving, lifting the clutch pedal with light throttle and when i have to stop then.
after i press the pedal and rev it highter it will find the idle and the problem is gone. (most of the time)
flywheel is lighter than stock. kfmres/k was incleased by 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 200 and 300% it didnt change much.
it feels like its a little bit better with 300%+ in kfmres and kfmresk
im out of knowledge at this point  :'(
which ignition map is active at idle? my load is between 20 and 35 and the ignition angle is 0 +-10degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3rCgBOveMY

thanks in advance


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: mbkr89 on November 09, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
Do you have a vcds ?
Are you german (max mustermann) ?


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: funnix on November 09, 2014, 10:35:47 PM
I've got this problem on an Polo 1,2l and Golf MK4 1,4l! In 2 times the throttle valve was defective! 


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 10, 2014, 12:53:58 AM
here is a chart out of my log.

looks like the throttle is causing the rpm



Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 10, 2014, 11:28:02 PM
one again i played with kfmres/k maps yesterday and the problem seems to be gone with theese set to zero.
i know this is not the right way but i am not willing to accept the throttle as hardwareproblem.

looks like my idle pid is the problem, but why i am the only one with this problem on a stroked 1.8t with sachs one piece clutch setup...

here are some interesting threads with the same problems
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=2438.0
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1703.0
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=4092.0

will look into PVDNV...


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 11, 2014, 12:11:04 PM
I am not able to find PVDN in my File.

Its not in the fully defined TT ols files.
There are 8 other PVDN... but not the one im looking for :(
I found it in the S4 551G 360855 OLS and i found the x-axis in my file at 1124C but not the values.

My file is here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7152.0title=



Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: ddillenger on November 11, 2014, 12:28:32 PM
I am not able to find PVDN in my File.

Its not in the fully defined TT ols files.
There are 8 other PVDN... but not the one im looking for :(
I found it in the S4 551G 360855 OLS and i found the x-axis in my file at 1124C but not the values.

My file is here: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7152.0title=



Import with offset of 800000


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 11, 2014, 11:32:50 PM
Thank you very much but these are the maps i allready have.
I am looking for PVDN and PVDNV
but all i could find in me7.5 projects is:
PVDNHMM
PVDNHMMV
PVDNHOM
PVDNHOMV
PVDNKH
PVDNSCH
PVDNSCHV
PVDNST

am i misinterpreting things?


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 17, 2014, 05:09:30 AM
i need help here  :-\


Title: Re: Loop of Death
Post by: aef on November 21, 2014, 12:20:33 AM
Looks like i sorted my problems.

KFFWL did the trick for me. increased by 8% like described here.
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg27838#msg27838
KFMRES and KFMRESK is back to stock.

Car behaves like stock during warmup.
Small problems when car is warm but will try to change KFBAKL and KFVAKL today like described here:
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg43067#msg43067

Afterwards i will try to locate FLRM and FFRITMS to try this.
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg53813#msg53813

i would bite my ass for not reading the ev14 migration thread earlier  ;D