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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: masterj on December 08, 2014, 02:24:10 AM



Title: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 08, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
Could someone point me to FR module which is responsible for engine start up rpm (just after engine start)? I've looked into LL* modules but haven't found info on that there


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: TijnCU on December 08, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
From the s4 wiki:
You can bump the idle/cold start RPM as well:

    KFNLLKHM - Elevated idle RPM until motor is warm
    KFNLLNST - Start RPM (momentary)

I think you should be able to locate them in the FR


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 08, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
From the s4 wiki:
You can bump the idle/cold start RPM as well:

    KFNLLKHM - Elevated idle RPM until motor is warm
    KFNLLNST - Start RPM (momentary)

I think you should be able to locate them in the FR

I know these maps. Closest (KFNLLNST) has some sort of delay before starting. I thought that it would start just after crank but it takes around 1s to actually kick in. I'll have to check ASM I guess.... Unless someone has a clue


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: TijnCU on December 08, 2014, 09:23:07 AM
I took a quick look, and I am not really into the FR, but I see tnst that could be a source of the delay? It is hooked to many other functions though...


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 08, 2014, 12:18:41 PM
tnst is the time after engine start. I have 0 column and it doesn't fire up instantly. Maybe I'll try logging if there's maybe some sort of rpm filtering that is actually limiting  the requested rpm


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: vwaudiguy on December 08, 2014, 09:13:45 PM
What are you trying to accomplish, masterj?


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 08, 2014, 11:54:33 PM
I'm trying to create initial 2200 - 800 rpm sweep on start up as you can see in supercars  ;D Almost done with KFNLLNST (when setting axis to something like 0 1 2 3 4 5) and first column rpm 2550 (FF) all others 0. Though sometimes it lags a little before firing up the sweep.


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: fknbrkn on December 09, 2014, 06:18:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JJz0j9TBz8&list=UUvMzqjUR0LyPsyRgdU9Y4ww
by KFNLLNST and its axis
unfortunally my laptop isnt here and i cant tell you more about axe values, but as i remember it starting with <1 sec.. something like 0.5 maybe?


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 09, 2014, 06:25:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JJz0j9TBz8&list=UUvMzqjUR0LyPsyRgdU9Y4ww
by KFNLLNST and its axis
unfortunally my laptop isnt here and i cant tell you more about axe values, but as i remember it starting with <1 sec.. something like 0.5 maybe?

I have 0 in first column. Strange is that today it fired up instantly but yesterday delayed for <1s. Anyway, I guess since today everything is OK I'll stick with KFNLLNST and call it a day


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: thelastleroy on December 09, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
I'm trying to create initial 2200 - 800 rpm sweep on start up as you can see in supercars  ;D

This is cool. I love hearing the exotics start up next to my work. There is a exotic car sales and leasing company right next door:

http://www.mvlleasing.com/used-inventory/index.htm?reset=InventoryListing.

I usually have a good drool when the loading door opens.


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: vwaudiguy on December 09, 2014, 09:40:48 PM
I'm trying to create initial 2200 - 800 rpm sweep on start up as you can see in supercars  ;D

Ok, so I had to google "supercar startup" to figure out what you meant :) . Is there some benefit to this? I thought it was bad to rev the engine up on initial start?


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 10, 2014, 12:26:41 AM
Ok, so I had to google "supercar startup" to figure out what you meant :) . Is there some benefit to this? I thought it was bad to rev the engine up on initial start?

Nah, just novelty :) just because I've already done everything that we do here usually I thought I'll try to find some new interesting and untested things.


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: fknbrkn on December 10, 2014, 04:54:02 AM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.0  :)


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 10, 2014, 05:43:22 AM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.0  :)

Yeah, looks like someone beat me to it :D


Title: Re:
Post by: dream3R on December 13, 2014, 07:00:27 AM
NST shares its axis on my car (s60r) FYI.


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: turdburglar44 on December 16, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
what exactly are the axes of KFNLLNST?


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: aef on December 17, 2014, 02:50:52 AM
Time after start in seconds and tmot in Grad Celsius


Title: Re:
Post by: turdburglar44 on December 17, 2014, 05:38:05 AM
Hmmm that's what I thought. I'm having a hell of a time finding it in my bin. I was thinking maybe it was tmotlin or something.


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: masterj on December 17, 2014, 06:37:39 AM
Hm... yet again this not always fires right away... Very strange, I'll have to log nmot and time after start, but 50/50 chance that there will be some sort of delay before KFNLLNST kicks in.

Engine start>800rpm->~0.5s->XXXRPM that was set in KFNLLNST


Title: Re: Start up rpm?
Post by: ReproLogic on November 15, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
Hm... yet again this not always fires right away... Very strange, I'll have to log nmot and time after start, but 50/50 chance that there will be some sort of delay before KFNLLNST kicks in.

Engine start>800rpm->~0.5s->XXXRPM that was set in KFNLLNST

Same issue. You solve it? Thanks.