NefMoto

Got Chinese Galletto V54 off ebay hoping it will work with MED17.5.2. Want to read the ECU from a 2013 CC. After soldering resistors to the bootmode spots I connect with Galletto...it connects successfully but upon trying to read flash it tells me flash is protected, need to use TPROT. So I remove resistors for TPROT as per instructions and replace ignition wires with red wires. TPROT tries to connect for a while then says no password for my ECU!

Can this be fixed with newer cracked Galletto software, if such a thing exists? It's my mom's car so spending thousands on legit tools isn't really an option.

one advice  , MED17 with clone tools = bad idea :) 

china scrap.

inst that what they used to say about clone tools for MED9?? ive never had a problem with mine...
hopefully sometime in the near future they will work

you gotta love the help you get around here with the newer ECU's... ::)

no sympathy. when some of us have spent $$$$$$$ on proper tools and support.
buy cheap shit, get cheap shit. then bitch about how your cheap shit sucks?  ::)

The only reason older ECUs have any support at all is because one or two people (setzi, prj, tony) went through the trouble to make working (free) tools available..

is that why it doesn't work 100% for sure?? why not explain why the clones don't work, at least that way we all learn something

did you read the op? that is 100% why it doesnt work. the op's cracked version doesnt have the correct BL pass for the ecu hes trying to read or doesnt have the correct protocol and cant access it.
again, no sympathy. pay someone with proper tools or pony up and spend the $ on proper tools for your/him-self.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Newest-V2-06-KESS-V2-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-Master-Version-No-Token-Limit-/231431857261?hash=item35e269e46d&item=231431857261&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr

Might try this one.

If I were to get a real master tool, which one is best for basic uses with all tricore?

more china scrap.
why not just pay someone with proper tools to do the ecu for you?

personally, i have a magic x17. works great.

That product is 4000 euros. There's got to be a less expensive way to do tricore.

keep buying china scrap. maybe youll find one that works and doesnt cook the ecu in the process.  ::)

I appreciate the sentiment, but I'm looking for recommendations on non-exorbitant legitimate master tools. For example used K-TAG can be purchased about $2000. Aside from the fact that's still very expensive, it's a lot less than 4000 euros. Any reason not to consider a legit K-TAG?

k-tag is a nice tool. local guy has one.
ktag is protocol by protocol or full activation of protocols. also a sub is required for updates.

KTAG is a good tool and the price is low enough (I'm not comparing it with clone tools now).
If you want to read and write tricore I suggest you to buy ori tool. But you can take a risk and buy chinese or EU clone, like KESS or KTAG.
Maybe you will kill ECU, maybe not.

What does this mean, that I have to purchase modules to read / write different ECUs? What is the price of a subscription?

why dont you read alientechs website? all the info is on there.

Except it is not. I have to request the information, which I did, but was wondering if anyone felt telling it offhand.

my google must be different than yours.
because when i type in alientech, several sites are pulled up that offer pricing and purchasing.

Guys MEd17 is not the same as MED9 or ME7.5 ,
 maybe in the far or near future there will be a free tool or something that can read them.

But we are talking about an ECU family that even with original tools it is unstable sometimes. I sometimes have problems with newer MED17 ECU`s and prefer to do them by Boot.  I wouldnt trust a clone tool ,not even to ID them ,that is my opinion..it is too expensive if something goes wrong  :(

EDIT: Also I may add that with newest Dealers Updates , I have came up with a situation that even TPOT3 couldnt be flashed after a dealers update in Summer , this ECU is a mess

i always pull and boot them. if obd crashes they are stuck in program mode and must be pulled to read and fix e2p.
you really need a genuine for these for the support and the updates.
if you brick it they cant easily be cloned, immo is in otp sector, immo off is $$ (unless you know how to do manually), ect.

What these guys have said. I still run into issues using legitimate tools. These protocols are all so new half of the REAL tool makers don't have them right yet, let alone the chinese making unstable clones of unstable protocols.

 ;D ;D ;D

Sorry...but these Tricore ECUs are real bitches. It happens even to the upper league of professionals that the ecu gets killed here and then and guess what: Most of the time for no obvious reason! You write it and afterwards it doesnt even answer. This happens with Tools like Byteshooter, X17, CMD, Kess and so on. Also the speed of development increased so rapidly since those Tricore ecus have been introduced. I receive weekly updates for my tools just to be able to do these newer cars. Take kompresd's tipp and let it do someone who has spend the money on these tools and knows what he is doing here. If you decide not to do so, look for a byteshooter, they get sold quite cheap at the moment. You can get a Slave for around 1000€ and a Master with Tricore Update for 2500€ orso. And the dollar is quite strong atm, isnt it ;)

Byteshooter looks interesting, but it's not clear from their website that it support MED17.5.2 / TC1767. I do want to flash the DSG so it's good they support that.

Are BSL100 and SPI-Wizard III + modules terribly expensive? I'll be using WinOLS one way or another so it would be nice to get everything from EVC.

BSL100 1260 EUR
SPI Wizard semi master 500 EUR
SPI Wizard tricore boot 2000 EUR
SPI Wizard DQ250 800 EUR

I am not sure it supports DQ500, which is probably what your car has.

The relation of Module-costs vs what you can do with it is horrible @SPI Wizard.  BSL100 is bootmode only and ECU only.
My Byteshooter supports MED17.5.2. To be able to flash DQ500 you have to have the v4.0 Update with Dongle which is 1200€ + VAT. Then additional 900€ + VAT for the DQ500 Module. Now you are slowly in the region where it would make more sense to buy X17 or similar ;) I own both and would recommend X17.

another option would be original MPPS...also a really great and cheap tool!

DAMN, MagPro2 X17 master looks like where it's at! Is there a better tool for the price?

no personal experience, but from what ive seen, mpps doesnt seem to go so smooth with tricores.

really? Maybe TCSTigersClaw can say something about it, afaik he uses it as his "main solution"

For what its supposed to support, the MPPS does ok.

Bootloader Tricore seems like some odd issues here and there though. Never bothered buying that plugin, wait for it to maybe get some updates done.

Had the odd issues with the MPPS OBD and Tricore boot module on MED17 VAG ecu's, but since a few software revisions ago, all seems to work well.

Hi mates! It´s a very interesting post. I have a question. If you have two units same bosch family but diferent reference are there programmer make 100% clone?
I have original ktag but it doent do that.
I hope you understand my poor english.

Thanks in advance ;)

Wich is the question ?

The question is: is there any programmer that makes a clone 100% of two units?
I have the problem of OTP memory that after programming the unit, the car will not start.
I hope you understand the question.
Thanks in advance ;)

Many tools can write OTP.
Of course you need to buy a new processor and solder it to the board for that.

Probably easier to just desolder the processor from the old ECU and solder it to the new one.

Hi mate! The problem when mcu is bga. It is nightmare for me ecus from vag. Others car brands aren't a problem about immo.
I hope in the future will easier.

For VAG you just need to recalculate eeprom for new OTP, no need to solder processor. Parts from eeprom are crypted with unique keys in OTP..

Hi cherry. How do you do that?
Thanks for reply ;)

Hello fellow ECM affectionados lol   Im in the middle of messing with this problem. Unfortunately Im still weak at this stuff. I read and saved a bin from a 2009 VW TDI. EDC 17 I believe. and the same from a replacement ECM.  I used the Ktag. I purchased through a tuner as I am a Tune installer. My issue is the original ECM failed. I thought I would try to clone it. I got the replacement ECM to receive the file from the original ECM. It Has the vin &immobilizer # but the car still doesn't like the replacment ECM. I was hoping to extract the SKC and try to program the replacement ECM but I am not sure where in the bin it is. And how to convert it to the correct numbers. I have a lot to learn! Any info would help a lot thanks!!