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Title: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on April 23, 2015, 08:06:56 AM
Well, recently i've read my stock bin from my car (audi a4 b5 atw 018P) using latest nefmoto app.
And now i spend a lot of time reading s4wiki and this forum.
I got winols and tunerPro, definition files for my tune (xdf and kp). I attached all below.

And of course i have a lot of questions.
Well, first is - should i change fueling for stage 1? All hardware is stock except downpipe.

All i want wright now is to make disable SAI, second O2 sensor (for catless exhaust) and make my car slightly faster))

In future i'm going to get K04, FMIC, may be ported AEB head, intake and etc.


  


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: vwaudiguy on April 23, 2015, 08:14:05 AM
Fueling and timing changes are required for stage 1. You will also change maps related to load, and most likely be changing the axis' of some of those maps.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: Ne-FF on April 23, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
Thank you for information.) 
And another moment, tunerpro is more understandable for me than winols, but I don't have a lot of mapsin xdf for my bin.
As I understood, kp to xdf converter doesn't exist.

Is it possible to transfer map from winols to tunerpro manually?

And, I apologize for my english.  It isn't my first language)) 


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
As I understood, kp to xdf converter doesn't exist.

mapdump (included in ecuxplot) converts (some versions of) .kp to .xdf


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: TLS on April 23, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
HI all.

OP, have you read this? http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6955.0t

Nye. I don't see mapdump in ECUxPlot. I have 6.1. How does that work?


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
Nye. I don't see mapdump in ECUxPlot. I have 6.1. How does that work?

It is a command line java program installed in the ECUxPlot install directory.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: TLS on April 23, 2015, 06:09:56 PM
Oh ok. I upgraded 6.0 o 6.1 and still could not see it in the program.
So I only access it from cmd?
Are there usage instructions anywhere? cmd syntax?
I searched and could not find.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: nyet on April 23, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
Code:
$ java -jar mapdump.jar
You must specify an input filename
Usage: mapdump [options] maps.kp [outputfile]
Options:
 -d                   Generate raw dump
 -i <image.bin>       Generate min/max columns and image size based on this
                      image
 -o                   Generate old xdf (requires -i <image.bin>)
 -r <maps.kp [...]>   Annotate with descriptions from matching maps also in
                      these mappacks (ignored if -x is used)
 -x                   Generate xml xdf (requires -i <image.bin>)



Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: Ne-FF on April 23, 2015, 11:28:39 PM
HI all.

OP, have you read this? http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6955.0t

Nye. I don't see mapdump in ECUxPlot. I have 6.1. How does that work?

Thank you, i'll read it )

and another moment.
My engine has narrow band O2 sensor. Should i replace it to wide band?
Or will stock narrow band sensor be enough for my purposes?


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: vwaudiguy on April 24, 2015, 09:18:05 AM
Thank you, i'll read it )

and another moment.
My engine has narrow band O2 sensor. Should i replace it to wide band?
Or will stock narrow band sensor be enough for my purposes?

It depends on your overall goal with the car. Wideband setups are easier to tune, and have a lot more flexibility in general.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: Ne-FF on April 25, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Can someone write exact address of CDSLS for 018P?
 


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P )
Post by: Ne-FF on April 26, 2015, 12:05:05 AM
This is my LAMFA.
I think it has correct address, but i can't find any info about axis for it.
What are addresses for it and factors? Of course if they exist )


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on April 26, 2015, 12:07:02 AM
Have forgot about LAMFA picture ))


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: ddillenger on April 26, 2015, 12:10:21 AM
The axis for lamfa are always directly preceding the map. Just look at any xdf/kp.

As for CDSLS, 0x181A7


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on April 26, 2015, 02:47:55 AM
The axis for lamfa are always directly preceding the map. Just look at any xdf/kp.

As for CDSLS, 0x181A7

Thank you.
This is my LAMFA tables.
Can you check it?


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: TLS on April 26, 2015, 08:01:48 PM
Your LAMFA looks like my one.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on July 13, 2015, 06:27:51 AM
Well, i come back to this thread )
I had to make technical side of my car perfectly before making she faster.
I installed new clutch, breaks, wheels, suspension )
Now she looks like:
(https://c-a.d-cd.net/60e26d2s-960.jpg)

And i gonna continue my thread now.


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on July 20, 2015, 11:51:22 PM
Well. First of all, i want to remove my cat and SAI system.
I should set "0" in CDKAT, CDKAT2, CDLSV, CDSLS and CDHSH. Is it right?


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Jim_Coupe on July 21, 2015, 06:36:38 AM
You can also use Torque ap as a logger and plot all the actual values with Megalog viewer.. This is how it looks like for me.. But then i have AFR Sensors on my car.

Here you can se me AFR value contra G/S. I also look on my LTFT and STFT so that they are correct.

(http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww58/JimCoupeTQ/VE%20table.jpg)


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Jim_Coupe on July 21, 2015, 06:38:32 AM
And by the way.. This is for E85.. And Ooops..Im running lean @ 6000rpm :(


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: Ne-FF on July 21, 2015, 10:06:10 PM
Jim, thanks for information )

And what about CAT and SAI, guys? )


Title: Re: trying to understand S4wiki and tune 018P
Post by: wishingtree on August 12, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
im attempting to tune this ecu myself ;D i am totally new to this. how did you add those other parameters to your table listing. or a link on how to do that!