Title: RS4 AZR engine into 98 euro S4. No CAN - Which box? Post by: TLS4 on April 26, 2015, 02:13:59 PM I'm in the final stages of swapping in an RS4 AZR engine in my -98 euro S4.
My first try was to use RS4 K-box software but that failed with an error on communication with the instrument cluster since my antique car don't have CAN. I also got an error on communcation with the ABS system but that disappeared when i coded the box for no ESP. My car came stock with a 512kB C-box. I was hoping to use some more explored and documented software and I have a spare 1MB box. Is there some more known box I can use or am I doomed to modify my C-box software? Tomas Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: ddillenger on April 26, 2015, 04:13:43 PM CW_CAN_R
Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: TLS4 on April 27, 2015, 02:36:00 PM Thanks!
Need to catch up on my German though, reading FR is close to painful. A follow up on my choice of box. I can't code the RS4 K-box 05611, only 10611. I only have 2 lambda probes, not four, so from what I understand I should use coding 05xxx. Is the K-box hard coded for EURIII emissions? Should I switch to the RS4 F-box? I have not been able to find out the difference between these two boxes, is it in the emission standard? Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: ddillenger on April 27, 2015, 04:22:52 PM Thanks! Need to catch up on my German though, reading FR is close to painful. A follow up on my choice of box. I can't code the RS4 K-box 05611, only 10611. I only have 2 lambda probes, not four, so from what I understand I should use coding 05xxx. Is the K-box hard coded for EURIII emissions? Should I switch to the RS4 F-box? I have not been able to find out the difference between these two boxes, is it in the emission standard? Everything you want to do should be done on the K-box. The F-box has no misfire detection amongst other caveats. As for the lambda probes, it's as simple as reading the S4 wiki to disable them. Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: TLS4 on June 10, 2015, 03:23:58 PM I solved some of my problems by switching to a Q-box.
From what I've read and from a quick binary compare it seems that the Q-box is the same as the K-box but without some emission equipment (rear lambda, SAI). Is that correct? I still have two error codes though. P1523 - Crash signal from airbag - implausible signal. From the FR it seems that this is a PWM signal from the airbag box to the ECU, my -98 S4 though don't use that signal so I need to code it out from the ECU. It seems that this is done by CWCS and/or CWCSER. Since CWCSER already is 0 I guess I should change CWCS from 2 to 0. Is that correct and enough? P1606 - Rough road detection - electrical malfunction I don't know why I get this code, I guess there must be some difference in the communication between the newer Q-box and my -98 ABS. The only thing I can find is that I probably can disable this by reseting CDSWE. My german is very limited today so I'm not sure about this. Is this correct and enough? Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: prj on June 11, 2015, 12:36:38 AM Set CWCS to 1 so it reads the PWM-signal instead of trying to find it from CAN.
That will read the signal via the PWM wire going to the ECU (I hope it is?). P1606 - I never had that issue when fitting 551K to a 551C car. Which loom are you using in the car? You should be getting fault codes for the 2nd camshaft adjuster. Title: Re: No CAN - Which box? Post by: TLS4 on June 11, 2015, 01:12:10 AM Set CWCS to 1 so it reads the PWM-signal instead of trying to find it from CAN. Do I have the PWM signal, I dont think there is wiring for it in the circuit diagram? But it's no problem testing with different CWCS.That will read the signal via the PWM wire going to the ECU (I hope it is?). P1606 - I never had that issue when fitting 551K to a 551C car. Which loom are you using in the car? You should be getting fault codes for the 2nd camshaft adjuster. I've just replaced the ABS unit with a used one since my old gave up completly. First I thought that the new one was faulty but I've tried starting the car with my old C-box and then I don't get P1606. I've modified my stock loom according to the differences to the the RS4 loom I figured out. Second camshaft adjuster, solenoids for air box and SAI and som changes to +12v feed to some parts. Title: Re: RS4 AZR engine into 98 euro S4. No CAN - Which box? Post by: prj on June 11, 2015, 11:34:46 AM Ok, CWCS = 1 should work.
Title: Re: RS4 AZR engine into 98 euro S4. No CAN - Which box? Post by: TLS4 on June 17, 2015, 03:15:04 PM Still confused over P1606. Why do I get it with the Q-box but not with the C-box?
Can it be that my new (used) ABS unit is broken but the C-box don't have rough road detection and therefore don't give the P1606 code? |