Title: AYP Cupra 1.8t 156hp MY2002 -> AYP Cupra R 180hp Post by: TheRamon on May 16, 2015, 05:31:33 AM Hi there,
I was wondering what the differences were between a ME7.1 and ME7.5 ECU. Both are from a Ibiza Cupra. The reason I'm asking is because of this topic: http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1675.0title= The chip I'm trying to flash in my ME7.5 has an EPK with 7.1 stated. I do not know if I would have any trouble writing it. Don't want to brick ;D Thank you in advance! Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 Post by: tjwasiak on May 16, 2015, 07:36:37 AM IMHO you should try to build your own tune (using your stock file as a base) even using values from stock Cupra tune. That way you can get even more then stock Cupra power/torque level safely and understand how your ECU works doing that.
Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 Post by: TheRamon on May 16, 2015, 08:33:11 AM You're absolutely right. Thank you for your answer.
Problem is though that my base file has a crap definition file / map. The Cupra R (and AQX engine) definition file I have is far more elaborated. I would like to continue on that Cupra R tune because it would be far more easy for me because I won't have to search all the maps. Do you think there is a chance I'll brick the ECU when writing the R tune? As stated in the topic the engine codes / hardware is the same. Thank you for your help! Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 Post by: tjwasiak on May 16, 2015, 01:06:57 PM Noone told DIY way is simple ;)
Defining your file on your own is good way to understand how the ECU works and possibly will help you to tune it better. Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 Post by: TheRamon on May 17, 2015, 12:19:07 PM Haha ;D
Thank you for your help. I have chosen your path and I've tried to identify as many maps as I could. I have overwritten all found maps with the Cupra R values. Would you mind checking if I have missed any maps? These are the maps I have 'updated' and which have actually changed. KFMIRL KFPED KFMIOP KFZWOP KFMIZUFIL KFMIZUNS TANSMN TMNSMN KFZW KFFDLBTS KFLBTS KFMLDMX KFTARX KFTARXZK LDRXN LDRXNZK I'm getting somewhere.. slowly.. ;D Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 (Conversion completed...) Post by: tjwasiak on May 17, 2015, 04:01:08 PM I am not an expert in tuning those ECUs but if I were you I would double check also (all of those are mentioned in S4Wiki):
- KFLF - LAMFA, ZKLAMFAW/ZKWLAFWL, TLAFA - CWLAMFAW, KFZWWLRL, FZWWLRLN, KFZWWLNM - KFLAMKRL, DLAMTANS, KFLAMKR - TABGBTS - KFLDHBN - KFLDIMX, LDIATA, KFLDRL Title: Re: Difference ME7.5 - ME7.1 (Conversion completed...) Post by: TheRamon on May 26, 2015, 12:21:56 AM Alright, I have compared a standard AQX file with the Cupra R file and have double checked all the maps that were changed between the two.
Below are the maps that have changed. Code: KFMLDMX I have changed my AYP file to incorporate all the maps that were changed. Please see attached the AYP ME7.5 file ;D Hope to help someone with this. I have tested the file and is working perfectly! Enjoy! Title: Re: AYP Cupra 1.8t 156hp MY2002 -> AYP Cupra R 180hp Post by: tjwasiak on May 26, 2015, 05:39:17 AM Looking at the changes I am not sure if both engines uses same injectors (as KRKTE and KVB are different). If I were you I would revert both to your file's stock values.
Title: Re: AYP Cupra 1.8t 156hp MY2002 -> AYP Cupra R 180hp Post by: TheRamon on May 26, 2015, 09:57:11 AM Yeah, you're right. The injectors of an AQX engine are smaller.
I have an AYP though. That was the thing and is why I opened this topic. AQX - ME7.1 smaller injectors (280?) 156hp AYP - ME7.5 bigger injectors (320?) 156hp AYP Cupra r - ME7.1 bigger injectors (320?) 180hp I wanted to know if I could chip a me7.1 file into a me7.5 ECU. I have the middle one in the list. I ended up using the values of the maps instead; as you suggested. My KRKTE is the same as the Cupra R, same values. So basically I have a Cupra R now, with a ME7.5 ECU instead of a 7.1. Title: Re: AYP Cupra 1.8t 156hp MY2002 -> AYP Cupra R 180hp Post by: tjwasiak on May 26, 2015, 12:19:54 PM It was my mistake - I missed the part that those differences you listed are between 2 ME7.1 files not your ME7.5 file and stock Cupra R file.
Now it is time to improve fueling and ignition and to raise load request and limiters :D Title: Re: AYP Cupra 1.8t 156hp MY2002 -> AYP Cupra R 180hp Post by: TheRamon on May 26, 2015, 01:42:58 PM Haha you're right! I think that is one step too far now, but will improve with time ;D
At least I know the maps that need changing! I just extreme them out a bit more! Thanks so much for your help. |