NefMoto

Vehicle Information
Car - 2001 VW Jetta 1.8t Chassis Code AWD
ECU - 06A906032CM V0005
Transmission - Automatic 01M
Mods - NONE

Software I Have Attained
All NefMoto software available.
Winols
TunerPro
Almost every Damos file Imaginable - Including one specific to my ecu - 06A906032CM.
Damos - In German, and I've tried translating some of it but its still in progress as my son is having surgery and this is being posted on a hospital PC while he is resting.
06A906032CM Bin

Related ECU Software
These were for comparison!
06A906032CL Bin
06A906032CL XDF

Goal
Understanding!
I genuinely want to learn not have it done for me.

Ignore the following as the EGR is Non Existent on this vehicle! Principal still applies just with a different map now!  :P
Id like to start with say an EGR map and delete it all together in software. this way ill get an idea of how things are done and be able to find other interesting things along the way!


Questions As I Go Along

Original Questions
From my understanding there are only two versions for my car.
06A906032CM - For Automatic Trans.
06A906032CL - For manual Trans.

1. So with this info I am struggling to understand if any other versions are cross compatible or not?

2. Should I get a related cross compatible "well defined" auto trans bin if this is even possible, flash it, then tune from there or should I continue on with searching for maps with the current ecu software?

File Update 2 Questions

06A906032CM.xdf was made from 06A906032CL.xdf by comparing the bins and changing offsets in TunerPro.

I didn't see the EGR map listed at least not as EGR! Im assuming it isn't even there as the original creator probably wasn't concerned about it. <- Because there isn't one..
Also some of the maps have one value that just looks off is that normal?
It would be greatly appreciated if someone could take a look and tell me weather or not I am on the right track!




File Updates As I Go Along

**Update 1** Included is the Winols Damos and Original Bin files i have found.

**Update 2** Included is the Winols Damos, Original Bin files i have found, 06A906032CL.xdf i found here on NefMoto and 06A906032CM.xdf was made from 06A906032CL.xdf by comparing the bins and changing offsets in TunerPro.

**Update 3** Attached Updated xdf  for 06A906032CM with a few new maps.. Still more to do but all in due time!

**Update 4** Attached Updated 06A906032CM.xdf with LDRXN in PSI and LAMFA in AFR

Ideally you want to start with your original file. If you have something fully defined that's close (the same engine code, and file size for example) you can use that to define your original file.

Thanks for your QUICK reply!

Its funny you said that as i had just come across this,
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=6594.msg60912#msg60912

I am using original bin files from here and various locations while I wait on my new cable to pull MY bin. The one i currently have is CH340 based not FT232R/RL. The damos and the hex files for reference or attempted reference, and the 6A906032CL again for attempted reference.

Question
06A906032CM - For Automatic Trans.
06A906032CL - For manual Trans.

These are the only two even remotely close but the transmission is different. In your opinion would these two be a good start as far as using it for a comparative basis?

Decided i would update the original post and just say "OP Updated." Not sure if this is acceptable, Mods feel free to chime in please!

OP Updated!

I don't believe your engine has EGR.

Well dont i just feel like an idiot.. lol I kept seeing people using it in there tutorials (Golf TDI I belive!) and just assumed id have one. <- Previous honda owner! Thank you for sorting that out! Removing attachments to not further confuse anyone else..

Thanks vwaudiguy and k0mpresd.

there is no egr on any 1.8t. they are labeled incorrectly.

Ok Thank You both. Sorry for my ignorance.  :P

bit of advice, dont be so excited for this cl/cm ecu. its boring as hell and pretty useless.
maybe be a bit more excited about an hs or rn. something thats actually worth a shit.

mmhmm. Convert to wideband!

haha i figured that about the time i got the car and starfted reading and found hardly anything for this ecu.. Im not actually doing anything yet just trying to learn and i learn by doing.. I had thought that if i didn't get anywhere that when i get to the point where im comfortable with what im doing ill get another jetta and mess with it before i mess with my dd. There are a few crappy ones around the $400-$700 range for the whole car and i want to do a manual swap anyhow so its just cheaper to get the whole damn car, convert mine to manual, the other to auto, swap some pieces i need for the interior and sell that piece.

well, daz meant more along the lines of converting the awd code to a wideband o2 sensor.
you only need the sensor, ecu, and conversion harness. or fix up your own harness. either way, its a very simple conversion.

Mind if i ask what makes the HS/RN better?

The wideband? lol i remember reading somewhere my car was like one of the only with ones to get narrowbands right?

+ several other things, but yes. generally speaking, the wideband ecu is always better.

Alright see if i don't know what those other things are I shouldn't even be worried about a damn bin or xdf. I may have skipped a few chapters in the "Tuners Handbook" so to speak so I think im gonna leave this topic where its at until i have a better understanding of what it is im actually doing, attempting to accomplish, and the theory behind it all so I don't wear out my welcome here. Hate feeling like one of those people begging for someone to explain something on a forum where its already been explained 100 times elsewhere. Thank you for everything and sorry to bother you all!

Ok, Now that I have done some research. I still would like to retain the narrowband for the time being. Since the last post i have made some progress in the following areas.

**Realized how uneducated I am..**

1. Received my ftdi based cable, pulled the (Original/Virgin) bin.
2. Using WinOLS combined with the damos i have, found essential missing maps (Using S4 Wiki as a Refrence) in current .xdf, and added them accordingly. (Still In Progress)
3. Working on figuring out the immo delete and checksum fix.
4. Received and installed my boost gauge. <- Nice to see what its actually registering but it looks kinda like a bad attempt at being cool! lol

When i am finished with the xdf i will upload a new file for others to use.

Also i have this idea of using the community 1.8t stage 1 as a guide for this ecu.. Is this a good idea or bad from the Advanced tuners experience?

This ecu is very easy to work with. As long as all of your fueling stays stock, you don't NEED a wideband. Also, this file is fully defined if you do some searching :)

I have the fully defined damos. The xdf for the 032CL I have and was a base for mine because i couldnt find my specific ecu xdf. I've mainly been doing this to learn and I've done nothing but that doing it the hard way. Where I'm at is what needs to be changed and by what does it need to be changed for say 180hp/200hp.. Thats with the assumption this can be done with a stock motor. I could just throw boost at it but I really don't want to blow up my car lol. But again it's a work in progress I'll get there eventually!

Seeking some advice!

Ok, so i have been reading and reading but i just cannot figure out which maps to start with for a simple stage 0.5. As my previous post states i guess i could increase the requested boost and add fuel and advance timing but i am unsure of myself. So please i know this is probably asked a million times a day but i just dont know where to start now, and ive come to far to quit!

Do this and keep the s4wiki tuning page handy. Read it several times.

I was thinking that but i wasn't sure exactly how much applied lol thanks for the quick response as usual! i have to say this is a great community, some forums are not exactly as "Flame retardant" as this one haha

Ok another question.. I have used both 29F800 & 29F800BB Memory Layouts. Does it matter which one is used? I ask because I have loaded both of them in tuner pro and there the same thing! The Checksum Utility says the files are supposed to be 512kb, However they are both 1024kb and even bins i have downloaded have been 1024kb so I am kinda confused there as well?

If the file size is 512, you would use 400BB to read/write. I believe the 512 files are all narrowband, but I could be wrong.

cm/cl are 512kb.

Im about to go try pulling a new bin with that layout, my car IS narrow band. Ill report back in about 5 mins haha

Thanks so it is the 400BB i should be using? From what ive read and even the stock file i had that came with the damos it was 1024kb?

Ok so any other layout aside from 800 or 800BB i get this.

Ok so i just went ahead with the read and got the 512kb file. Loaded up in win ols and all is fine. However every fault code imaginable popped up lol is this normal? i just cleared them.