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Title: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: littco on August 10, 2011, 06:34:19 AM
Any ideas? Me7.5. Ecu bricked after a bad flash with nefmoto. I have tried galletto with bootmode but it just won't connect. Using a 2.2k on pin 21 and a 5k resistor on boot pin connected to ground. Galletto just says it's unable to connect. Happy to remove the 29f800 chip but just wondered if I had missed something.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: pvl on August 10, 2011, 08:36:06 AM
if you have a benchflash-harness, try to do a vagcom-diagnose. If it responds, you can flash the unit. Ifnot, rewrite firstly the eeprom with a virgin dump (95040) and then try again with galletto. you only have to keep the bootpin on the flashrom connected for 2 seconds max to enter bootmore, and then release the temp ground, and galletto will flash it correctly. Most people leave it in boot-mode-triggering-modus, and then galletto cannot connect...

Hope this helped you out ;)

Cheers,

PvL


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: pvl on August 10, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
Red circles are the pads to use.

Green V = 1-2 sec connection with a v-shaped staple
Green line = alternative 1-2 sec connection with a wire.

The connection must be made just before the ecu is powered
up. Keep it bridged, and power the ecu up, while counting to 2.
Then undo the temp-bridge and the ecu is in bootmode. No
additional resistors needed. Done a few with galletto 1260 this way
and all are still in perfect shape.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: littco on August 10, 2011, 09:44:58 AM
Thanks PVL. Are you saying no 5.5k resistor needed on the bootmode pin? Ie a wire direct ground to bootpin?


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: kenmac on August 10, 2011, 12:23:10 PM
For the record, I spent a lot of my time pulling my hair out getting my ME7.5 into boot mode.  I was testing this by performing a Galletto read each time after I attempted boot mode.  I finally just tried to write the intended flash instead of performing a read as a test, and the write succeeded without a hitch.  I still have never gotten a "read" from Galletto.  But I really only need it to "write" to a bricked ECU anyway.

My boot-mode method was 5 seconds on the boot pin to the ground of my power supply.  Although I'm inclined to try the method described above next time.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: nyet on August 10, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
Thanks PVL. Are you saying no 5.5k resistor needed on the bootmode pin? Ie a wire direct ground to bootpin?

Yes. Only while ECU is being powered up. Then remove it.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: pvl on August 10, 2011, 02:38:55 PM
" Are you saying no 5.5k resistor needed on the bootmode pin ''  -> spot on. No resistors
needed.

I never used them on these 1.8T ecu's. And it always gave me good results on a
P4-WinXP-SP3 machine with galletto 1260 clone, plus the correctly chosen bootmode (400/800 flashrom). Works like a charm.

It's just 1-2 seconds that the bridgewire needs to be applied. No more. Only dureing
power-up of the ecu (ignition-on).

Cheers,

PvL


Title: SUCCESS!!!
Post by: littco on August 11, 2011, 04:00:52 AM
Success....

So after to much time trying with 5.5k resistors I finally managed to get my ECU into Bootmode and load on the file.

Just for reference I found that using the single wire from the metal ground around the ecu to pin24 worked. Using the V pin across the 2 pads didn't.

So a big thank you too all, who offered advice etc.. Another ECU saved from being bricked!!!



Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: pvl on August 11, 2011, 04:11:38 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

Glad to hear it worked out well for you.

Cheers,

PvL


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: judeisnotobscure on August 11, 2011, 05:58:42 AM
I've been having the same issues with a couple me7.5 ecu's on the bench... I have yet to get boot mode with one...  This gives me hope though.   I'll fiddle around a little more with it to see if i'm just being dumb.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: littco on August 11, 2011, 06:19:26 AM
I did also have a 2.2k resistor on pin 21 as well. Not sure if this made a difference or not but it worked with it ok.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: chienliu1972 on October 12, 2011, 07:19:38 AM
Most people leave it in boot-mode-triggering-modus, and then galletto cannot connect...

Hope this helped you out ;)

Cheers,

PvL



Could Pvl kindly advise how to know that ECU now is in boot-mode-triggering-modus? More in detail with description? I always get "boot mode inactive".


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: pvl on October 12, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
It's time for you to contact me on msn.
You have been given already enough tips via this forum.

You have other issues, with the hardware. I will not discuss
further, over here.

Time to meet-up.

Speak to you soon.


Title: Re: Can't connect in bootmode
Post by: chienliu1972 on October 19, 2011, 12:40:36 AM
The ECU has been into bootmode successfully. The problem is my problem cable of Galletto 1260. When I used a new Galletto 1260 cable, it worked smoothly.