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Title: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on October 28, 2016, 05:58:31 AM
Hello ! You can help calculate KRKTE and TVUB for (0280156023) 373.1 cc  3 bar  EV6 ,  AWT K04 Chip 4 bar .    


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on October 28, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
TVUB can't be calculated. You can only get it from the injector spec sheet.

Even if you have access to a flow bench, it is hard to DIY measure.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on October 29, 2016, 02:30:30 AM
My stok TVUB for 0280156065  271cc@3bar 12 Om

7.96           10.00        11.97         14.01         15.98

1.8776   1.0855   0.6854   0.4374   0.2667

My new 0280156023 373 сс@3bar 15.7 Om

KRKTE stok 0.104784  new 0.076035

Were look injector spec sheet from TVUB ?




Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on October 29, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
You tell me. Where are the injectors from?


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on October 29, 2016, 11:18:44 AM
You tell me. Where are the injectors from?

I'm sorry that I can not understand something, I use Google translator, I just do not understand how to find the settings for 0280156023 TVUB, and what they do.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: vwaudiguy on October 29, 2016, 12:44:29 PM
I'm sorry that I can not understand something, I use Google translator, I just do not understand how to find the settings for 0280156023 TVUB, and what they do.

These values are provided by the manufacturer of the injectors. Contact the manufacturer.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on October 29, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
Alternately, if they came in a car that you can get an ECU bin for, you can copy the TVUB values over (if the FPR is the same).

If the FPR is different, you will need to get the spec sheet from the manufacturer to know how to compensate.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on October 30, 2016, 03:46:09 AM
It is clear, that is, I need to find where the ECU firmware nominally nozzles are 0280156023 and from there take the values . Thank you.
Now I'm worried about this problem screenshots 1 .
Is it possible to fix FKKVS map?




Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on October 30, 2016, 12:48:54 PM
Get ME7Logger working.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: ANDR on October 31, 2016, 02:09:29 AM
My stok TVUB for 0280156065  271cc@3bar 12 Om

7.96           10.00        11.97         14.01         15.98

1.8776   1.0855   0.6854   0.4374   0.2667

My new 0280156023 373 сс@3bar 15.7 Om

KRKTE stok 0.104784  new 0.076035

Were look injector spec sheet from TVUB ?



http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1278.0


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on October 31, 2016, 04:44:55 AM
Thank you B234R , just found his post.

Here is the latency data you need for those injectors (Bosch 0280156023)

6V -> 3,80 ms
7V -> 2,95 ms
8V -> 2,33 ms
9V -> 1,93 ms
10V -> 1,62 ms
11V -> 1,39 ms
12V -> 1,20 ms
13V -> 1,05 ms
14V -> 0,92 ms
15V -> 0,82 ms


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 01, 2016, 10:04:21 PM
There is another problem, when i try to change the values TVUB and after flashing, the ECU is identified erroneously and the car will not start.

AWT

TVUB - 0x13EAC

My XDF and flash http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=10336.0title=

Help please (((


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 01, 2016, 10:28:31 PM
did you fix checksums before flashing?

I don't see the bin you flashed anywhere


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 01, 2016, 10:34:40 PM
did you fix checksums before flashing?

I don't see the bin you flashed anywhere

Bin in first message
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=10336.0title=

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10336.0;attach=19903

checksums immediately after the correction.

has been corrected file


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 02, 2016, 10:38:14 PM
Solved a problem with the ECU identification, now engine starts with the corrected TVUB , the problem was in the checksum, while IronFelix did not see a problem , WinOLS proposed to correct checksum but after setting changes , and all was well .
Now I have entered the parameters TVUB  of the above post , and corrected KRKTE , but now fuel correction in vsds 32 group
It was to be (add 0.8% , mult 18.8% ) too much difference , I think that the above reported parameters are wrong or I have wrong a bit map .


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: turekdzik on November 03, 2016, 10:15:05 AM
Hi maybe somone got tvub for 0280156012 ?


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: vwaudiguy on November 03, 2016, 11:45:14 AM
Hi maybe somone got tvub for 0280156012 ?

Did you read this thread?


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: turekdzik on November 03, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
Yes im read and i got some damos porsche but not sure which is correct ;)


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 03, 2016, 11:53:27 AM
Solved a problem with the ECU identification, now engine starts with the corrected TVUB , the problem was in the checksum, while IronFelix did not see a problem , WinOLS proposed to correct checksum but after setting changes , and all was well

What did ME7Sum and ME7Check say?


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 03, 2016, 03:29:58 PM
What did ME7Sum and ME7Check say?
They said that all is well , until i change the parameters in WinOLS and he did not offer to fix )


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 03, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
Please post the before and after windows fix


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 04, 2016, 01:48:42 AM
Please post the before and after windows fix


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 04, 2016, 03:07:18 AM
dude.

Code:
me7sum 8D0906018DF.bin_not\ work.bin
ME7Sum (v1.0.3-5-g2aec) [Management tool for Bosch ME7.x firmwares]
Inspiration from Andy Whittaker's tools and information.
Written by 360trev and nyet [BSD License Open Source].

Attempting to open firmware file '8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin'

Step #1: Reading ROM info ..
 Searching for EPK signature...OK
 Searching for ECUID table...OK
 EPK         : '40/1/ME7.5/5/4016.31//24b/Dst01o/220301//'
 Part Number : '4B0906018DF '
 Engine ID   : '1.8L R4/5VT     '
 SW Version  : '0001'
 HW Number   : '0261207639'
 SW Number   : '1037362361'

Step #2: Reading ROMSYS ..
 Startup section: word[0x008000]+word[0x00FFFE]
 @008038 Add=0x00A8B5 CalcAdd=0x00A8B5  ADD OK
 Program pages: 8k page first+last in 0x0000-0xFFFF and 0x20000-0xFFFFF
 @00803c Add=0x9F0DEF CalcAdd=0x9E0DEF ** NOT OK **
 All param page: word[0x010000]+word[0x01FFFE]
 @01befa Add=0x00971D CalcAdd=0x00971D  ADD OK

Step #3: Reading RSA signatures ..
 Searching for RSA offset #0...missing
 Searching for RSA offset #1...missing

Step #4: Finding CRC table(s) ..
 Searching for CRC table(s)...OK
 CRC table(s) OK

Step #5: Reading Main Data Checksums ..
 Searching for main data CRC pre block...OK
 Searching for main data CRC/csum blocks...OK
 Searching for main data CRC offsets...OK
 Searching for main data checksum offsets...missing
 Main CRCs:
 0) 0x0183BC-0x0183C5                      CalcCRC: 244E4C69
 1) 0x010002-0x013FFE @90000 CRC: FBE7DD1C CalcCRC: FBE7DD1C(r) CRC OK
 2) 0x014252-0x017F4E @90006 CRC: FFA59D98 CalcCRC: FFA59D98(r) CRC OK
 3) 0x018192-0x01FBDC                      CalcCRC: 0C427A65(r)
 4) 0x026A00-0x02FFFC @9000c CRC: A5B86DCD CalcCRC: A5B86DCD(r) CRC OK

Step #6: Reading Main Program Checksums ..
 Searching for main program checksum..OK
 ROM Checksum Block Offset Table @1fbc8 [16 bytes]:
 1) 0x000000-0x00FBFF CalcChk: 48D041AA
    0x00FC00-0x01FFFF CalcChk: 23E2EFD1 CalcCRC: 1994D76E SKIPPED
 2) 0x020000-0x0FFFFF CalcChk: 3DD607EF
 @fffe0 Chk: 3DD607EF CalcChk: 3DD607EF OK (i)

Step #7: Reading Multipoint Checksum Blocks ..
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #1...missing
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #2...OK
 1) <1fbde>  0x000000-0x003FFF Chk: 0FA0F5CF Boot: (whitelisted) OK
 2) <1fbee>  0x004000-0x007FFF Chk: 0F4716B3 Boot: (whitelisted) OK
 3) <1fbfe>  0x000000-0x003FFF Chk: 0FA0F5CF CalcChk: 0FA0F5CF OK
 4) <1fc0e>  0x004000-0x007FFF Chk: 0F4716B3 CalcChk: 0F4716B3 OK
 Multipoint #2: [66 blocks x <16> = 1056 bytes]

*** Found 71 checksums in 8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin

*** WARNING! 1/1 uncorrected error(s) in 8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin! ***


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 04, 2016, 07:44:06 AM
dude.

Code:
me7sum 8D0906018DF.bin_not\ work.bin
ME7Sum (v1.0.3-5-g2aec) [Management tool for Bosch ME7.x firmwares]
Inspiration from Andy Whittaker's tools and information.
Written by 360trev and nyet [BSD License Open Source].

Attempting to open firmware file '8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin'

Step #1: Reading ROM info ..
 Searching for EPK signature...OK
 Searching for ECUID table...OK
 EPK         : '40/1/ME7.5/5/4016.31//24b/Dst01o/220301//'
 Part Number : '4B0906018DF '
 Engine ID   : '1.8L R4/5VT     '
 SW Version  : '0001'
 HW Number   : '0261207639'
 SW Number   : '1037362361'

Step #2: Reading ROMSYS ..
 Startup section: word[0x008000]+word[0x00FFFE]
 @008038 Add=0x00A8B5 CalcAdd=0x00A8B5  ADD OK
 Program pages: 8k page first+last in 0x0000-0xFFFF and 0x20000-0xFFFFF
 @00803c Add=0x9F0DEF CalcAdd=0x9E0DEF ** NOT OK **
 All param page: word[0x010000]+word[0x01FFFE]
 @01befa Add=0x00971D CalcAdd=0x00971D  ADD OK

Step #3: Reading RSA signatures ..
 Searching for RSA offset #0...missing
 Searching for RSA offset #1...missing

Step #4: Finding CRC table(s) ..
 Searching for CRC table(s)...OK
 CRC table(s) OK

Step #5: Reading Main Data Checksums ..
 Searching for main data CRC pre block...OK
 Searching for main data CRC/csum blocks...OK
 Searching for main data CRC offsets...OK
 Searching for main data checksum offsets...missing
 Main CRCs:
 0) 0x0183BC-0x0183C5                      CalcCRC: 244E4C69
 1) 0x010002-0x013FFE @90000 CRC: FBE7DD1C CalcCRC: FBE7DD1C(r) CRC OK
 2) 0x014252-0x017F4E @90006 CRC: FFA59D98 CalcCRC: FFA59D98(r) CRC OK
 3) 0x018192-0x01FBDC                      CalcCRC: 0C427A65(r)
 4) 0x026A00-0x02FFFC @9000c CRC: A5B86DCD CalcCRC: A5B86DCD(r) CRC OK

Step #6: Reading Main Program Checksums ..
 Searching for main program checksum..OK
 ROM Checksum Block Offset Table @1fbc8 [16 bytes]:
 1) 0x000000-0x00FBFF CalcChk: 48D041AA
    0x00FC00-0x01FFFF CalcChk: 23E2EFD1 CalcCRC: 1994D76E SKIPPED
 2) 0x020000-0x0FFFFF CalcChk: 3DD607EF
 @fffe0 Chk: 3DD607EF CalcChk: 3DD607EF OK (i)

Step #7: Reading Multipoint Checksum Blocks ..
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #1...missing
 Searching for multipoint block descriptor #2...OK
 1) <1fbde>  0x000000-0x003FFF Chk: 0FA0F5CF Boot: (whitelisted) OK
 2) <1fbee>  0x004000-0x007FFF Chk: 0F4716B3 Boot: (whitelisted) OK
 3) <1fbfe>  0x000000-0x003FFF Chk: 0FA0F5CF CalcChk: 0FA0F5CF OK
 4) <1fc0e>  0x004000-0x007FFF Chk: 0F4716B3 CalcChk: 0F4716B3 OK
 Multipoint #2: [66 blocks x <16> = 1056 bytes]

*** Found 71 checksums in 8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin

*** WARNING! 1/1 uncorrected error(s) in 8D0906018DF.bin_not work.bin! ***
[code]
[/code]

 1/1 uncorrected error(s) ????


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 04, 2016, 11:23:10 AM
did you fix checksums before flashing?

That is to say, did you check the file with ME7Sum?

If not, why not?


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 04, 2016, 02:51:46 PM
I checked, I had no errors, the problem was after flashing the purchase, there was a lock on the changes that might put the crooked


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: nyet on November 04, 2016, 03:15:06 PM
I checked, I had no errors

Post the file that showed no errors with ME7Sum but did not work, please.


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: Ionut on January 29, 2017, 09:41:08 AM
Did you fixed that? From your calculations KRKTE is 0.076035, but from mine, KRKTE should be 0.0876 (373.1cc, Engine displacement 1781cc and 4 cylinders)


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: antoffka666 on November 10, 2017, 12:50:58 AM
Did you fixed that? From your calculations KRKTE is 0.076035, but from mine, KRKTE should be 0.0876 (373.1cc, Engine displacement 1781cc and 4 cylinders)

Yes, I assembled the chip with the base version


Title: Re: Bosch EV6 TVUB
Post by: up50lut3 on August 05, 2018, 08:12:44 PM
TVUB can't be calculated. You can only get it from the injector spec sheet.

Even if you have access to a flow bench, it is hard to DIY measure.

this should be stickied