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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: black on May 16, 2017, 01:53:29 AM



Title: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 16, 2017, 01:53:29 AM
Any issues to read or flash R8 V10 MED9.1 with MPPS (original) via OBD?.

Maybe somebody has done this with success??

Additional question - is it possible to read flash R8 R-Tronic TCU with mpps?

thanks


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: aef on May 16, 2017, 06:05:38 AM
simply try it, read will not damage anything.

dont know how this is done with master/slave ecu.

last time i used bdm on both to feel safe :)


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: vdubnation on May 16, 2017, 06:19:02 AM
What year ? 2012+ have a unique RSA you ll get a no start after flash. No mpps cant do R-tronic.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 16, 2017, 10:31:12 AM
simply try it, read will not damage anything.

dont know how this is done with master/slave ecu.

last time i used bdm on both to feel safe :)

I do not have mpps yet. I am looking for a tool to read and write data to my V10 and I dont want to buy the wrong tool.

no TCU  :(    ..fortunately I have manual gear shifter but it would be convenient to have a tool for R-Tronic too   

maybe MAGPro2 X17 ???



Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: aef on May 17, 2017, 06:05:04 AM
What are we talking about here?
Rich guy with V10 and lots of time willing to start DIY tuning?

Just google mpps car list and you will find this: https://amtcartech.com/data/MPPS_Carlist.pdf



Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: prj on May 17, 2017, 06:24:20 AM
Fastest way is solder BDM headers into ECU's probably.
Because flash time using protocol is 30-40 minutes.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 17, 2017, 11:28:23 PM
What are we talking about here?
Rich guy with V10 and lots of time willing to start DIY tuning?

Just google mpps car list and you will find this: https://amtcartech.com/data/MPPS_Carlist.pdf




Some guys are pretty quick with prejudices?

No, guy wo did 10 years of S2/Rs2/Rs4/RS6/S4 tuning with OLS300 Emulator and did tons of VEMS/LINK 1/4mile tunes wants to get into new stuff.

I know the carlist from AMD Cartech. I did my homework about google search. I'm only curious about some personal experience not about doing google search for me  :). I this a crime?

Companies always represent their product as the best - personal experience matters.









Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 17, 2017, 11:30:40 PM
Fastest way is solder BDM headers into ECU's probably.
Because flash time using protocol is 30-40 minutes.

thanks, I always appreciate your help Dmitri


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 17, 2017, 11:31:49 PM
What year ? 2012+ have a unique RSA you ll get a no start after flash. No mpps cant do R-tronic.

No, 2010....   2012+ would be MED17


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: aef on May 18, 2017, 01:43:03 AM
Some guys are pretty quick with prejudices?

hehe, sorry for that. but usually its like i said.
Would recommend to buy fg technology galletto to flash by obd and bdm.

btw: are you thomas from germany?


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 18, 2017, 04:12:55 AM
No, 2010....   2012+ would be MED17

Wrong. all 420 (old) R8s have MED9 even up to 2015, but 2012+ ones can't be done through OBD with the conventional tools out there. Only 4S0 R8 has MED17.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 18, 2017, 04:13:09 AM
hehe, sorry for that. but usually its like i said.
Would recommend to buy fg technology galletto to flash by obd and bdm.

btw: are you thomas from germany?


no I'm not.

thanks I will have a look at this  ;)


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 18, 2017, 04:14:38 AM
Fastest way is solder BDM headers into ECU's probably.
Because flash time using protocol is 30-40 minutes.

WUT? CMD takes 8 minutes per ECU to flash!


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: prj on May 18, 2017, 06:05:24 AM
WUT? CMD takes 8 minutes per ECU to flash!
I have flashed in the past with CMD and I remember it being longer than that. Maybe I am wrong.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: gt-innovation on May 18, 2017, 06:25:53 AM
Depends on the version...Same goes with the rs4 4.2 round about 3x mins per ecu and some older r8s.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 18, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
Depends on the version...Same goes with the rs4 4.2 round about 3x mins per ecu and some older r8s.

RS4 B7 MED9 NEVER flashes in 3 mins per ECU, EVER. unless your time is different than my time. not that I haven't flashed over 300 of either of those ECUs or anything, but hey, you never know. Normal flash time for those flashing 5 blocks into each ECU is around 8 minutes give or take.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: matchew on May 18, 2017, 10:58:03 AM
Depends on the version...Same goes with the rs4 4.2 round about 3x mins per ecu and some older r8s.

RS4 B7 MED9 NEVER flashes in 3 mins per ECU, EVER. unless your time is different than my time. not that I haven't flashed over 300 of either of those ECUs or anything, but hey, you never know. Normal flash time for those flashing 5 blocks into each ECU is around 8 minutes give or take.

You are the only person quoting 3 minutes here.



Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on May 18, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
Wrong. all 420 (old) R8s have MED9 even up to 2015, but 2012+ ones can't be done through OBD with the conventional tools out there. Only 4S0 R8 has MED17.

ok, thanks  :)


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 19, 2017, 01:07:28 AM
RS4 B7 MED9 NEVER flashes in 3 mins per ECU, EVER. unless your time is different than my time. not that I haven't flashed over 300 of either of those ECUs or anything, but hey, you never know. Normal flash time for those flashing 5 blocks into each ECU is around 8 minutes give or take.


You are the only person quoting 3 minutes here.



LOL that's because I thought he meant 3 mins instead of 30+ mins :D


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: gt-innovation on May 19, 2017, 05:57:40 AM
RS4 B7 MED9 NEVER flashes in 3 mins per ECU, EVER. unless your time is different than my time. not that I haven't flashed over 300 of either of those ECUs or anything, but hey, you never know. Normal flash time for those flashing 5 blocks into each ECU is around 8 minutes give or take.

3x 30+ something......i used the X because it was round about that time...You misunderstood.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: IamwhoIam on May 19, 2017, 06:24:02 AM
reading takes 14-18 mins per ECU, flashing 8 per ECU, maybe 10 if you use slow tools.


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: vwaudiguy on July 18, 2017, 01:48:55 AM
Back to the original question, which tools work with this ecu?  :)


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: S2evo1 on July 18, 2017, 11:30:52 PM
CMD, KESS, Magic x17 and I-flash works


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: vwaudiguy on July 19, 2017, 09:04:56 AM
CMD, KESS, Magic x17 and I-flash works

Thanks


Title: Re: R8 V10 MED9.1 525PS - read or flash with MPPS (original)??
Post by: black on January 03, 2018, 12:15:46 AM
bought original EVC BDM100 - perfect!  :)