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Technical => Cluster and Immobilizer => Topic started by: BBBBL on March 26, 2018, 05:13:51 PM



Title: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 26, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
Hello ,I have audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19
edc 15p
038906019cc
1037354372 0281010304
flah 29f400bt ,
I read the dump with galetto but I dont know if the code pin is on the dump or custer or ?
I read the dump with k can commander and no code to programme news key ,
Can you help me , please ?

https://mega.nz/#!HMN32ajY!Junm51GzNDSUWXN7eIQeUbBxbGdhcTpEw6D_BHysbJc

https://mega.nz/#!HBN0iJxA!L3sg8xBR5cHkn8-LNZ5VITIWMtMJ4qlTsqv6oGFRZhY


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? news key ?
Post by: BBBBL on March 26, 2018, 05:22:27 PM
with commander :
divce identification 8D0920900M KOMBI+WEGFAH RS M73 D56 
EXTRA XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX AUZ5Z0E2037076
code is in ecu or cluster ?


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 12:06:09 AM
Its seems immo2 - so pin only in cluster

But you wont read this cluster with commander , Jeager MM is not working with it , i guess vagtacho works


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 27, 2018, 06:45:19 AM
thant you
 I find tacho in 5 days , I think
Do you think my dump is not good or programme K CAN COMMANDER cannot find my code ?

in VCDS no17 : no vin but xxxxxxxxxxxx and AUZ5ZOE2307075

Pics
https://mega.nz/#!qMdnWZpZ!UOuU2V9IitV5q-Gjnn7zVD8sPHLD7fYgvRTLM9ma8n0

I dont understand where is code and vcds program key ?
Can you help me 




Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 06:47:17 AM
Commander wont read dump correctly from cluster so no pin


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 27, 2018, 07:22:16 AM
hello and thank you
 cluster  have a physical or virtual flash memory ,
 can I find and read with eeprom read machine ?

( EZP2010 USB EEPROM orWillem Eprom programmer )


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: _nameless on March 27, 2018, 07:38:21 AM
hello and thank you
 cluster  have a physical or virtual flash memory ,
 can I find and read with eeprom read machine ?

( EZP2010 USB EEPROM orWillem Eprom programmer )
use vageeprom its a pinned post on this forum. Use with your blue kkl cable and read the cluster eeprom. Another option is immo off the eeprom for the ecu abd write a north american b5 cluster eeprom and be done with it. Nirth american cluster eeproms for b5 are not equipped with any immo


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
Marty its not a vdo cluster ;)


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 27, 2018, 09:08:21 AM
ok , merci
I am lost ... help me, of what immo is it ?
and is the code stored physically in eeprom ? if so where?


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 11:32:46 AM
It is in epprom of cluster


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 27, 2018, 02:21:31 PM
ok thank
I open ECU
juste for info
in ecu
there iss 24c04 :  512x8 4k

I try to open cluster later :) for dump



Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 02:33:25 PM
You still don't understand, what do you want do to at first?

you have immo2 ( no Vin number in ECU or cluster ) - so the pin is only in cluster

if its immo3 the vin  number is in ECU and cluster , also the same pin is ECU epprom and cluster epprom


You have a cluster with a small LCD ( or lets call it a half FiS display) , which is produced by Jeager Magneti Marelli - as i know there is a motorola chip inside , it can be read by Vag TAcho or a programeer









Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: nkiller on March 27, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
So you have three ways to do it. Tachometer is Jaeger (half fis - BIG Crap)...
One way is dump motor ecu 24c04 and IMMO off it, so car can starts in every condition, and it can be stolen easy in every condition  ;D
Other way is find 'VagTacho' and pull code over OBD, that is the most safety way.

Third way is with normal programmer - Willem, TL866, Batronix, etc.  Eeprom is stored under tachodials, so you need to remove needles, but keep in mind that Jaeger needles are made from very cheap plastic, and they starts to swing after removal.
So choose your way and share files with us, to help :)


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on March 27, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
Fourth way - throw away jeager cluster and put in a vdo ;) i did it in my a6 c5 and a4 b5


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on March 27, 2018, 03:19:08 PM
un grand merci

Big thank for all !
I take vag tacho : I want 2 other keys .

if you  have you  some info vag tacho :
how does it work  i2c , can , and why commander k can do not work ?

have good day 





Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: nkiller on March 30, 2018, 01:59:05 AM
Vagtacho works direct k-line (different speeds, different int words) , also supports most of CAN based tachos.
So most of these tools are chiniese clone and they work strange, i have 'commander' and it was awful to work with. Sometimes read, sometimes won't , sometimes read bunch of s..t.
K-Commander life ends up in the garbage bin!
Two months ago, i get a china clone vagTacho5.5 (for 21 bucks) and works like a charm. reads pin (about 20 seconds), program keys, nice and fine.


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: macxxx on April 02, 2018, 12:06:04 AM
Commander doesnt support Jeager Magnetii Marelli , just that


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on April 15, 2018, 01:03:26 PM
hello, code 4315 does not work,
I found with tacho 1665 but does not work either, with v 0, v1, v2, 68hc912dg128 = same code 1665
tacho:
xxxxxxxxx auz5z0e2307070
8d0920900m kombi + wegfahrs, m73 d56
Okay
code 1665
Okay

but I can not access programming with tacho and vscd
What is the problem ?
thank you for your reply
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Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on April 16, 2018, 12:54:26 PM
why why why , tacho do not work ,
my car is not good with me !


Title: Re: audi a4 b5 quattro 115 tdi 19L 2000 edc15p immo 038906019cc ? code ? HELP me
Post by: BBBBL on April 30, 2018, 12:36:24 PM
commander work I have 3keys but light is  on my board ! :(
commander do imo of ?