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Technical => Diagnostics => Topic started by: JulienR on May 28, 2019, 03:31:12 PM



Title: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: JulienR on May 28, 2019, 03:31:12 PM
Hello,

I was wondering if there is somebody who could help me with this remapping.
The car is a Golf 4 1.8T with engine code AUM.

We fitted an K04-001 with the following parts :
440cc injectors
3 inch silicone intake with 3 inch MAF house
3 inch Downpipe
4 bar fuel pump
4 bar fuel pressure regulator
Front mount intercooler
R8 TFSI coils (the famous red topsjavascript:void(0); )
NGK BKR7E bougies

after this remapping , even with the limmiters off whe still get  the enoing error code  16622 manifold pressure / boost sensor (G31) P0238 - 35 - 10 signal too high - intermittent code.

when the boost pressure hit the 1.5 bar for a second of 1.5/2 the wastegate opens, what effenciely turn out in powerloss.
 
trying to log everything but still got no clue why this happens.

Added : original map and remap and remap with limmiters off
thanks in advance


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: nyet on May 28, 2019, 03:39:22 PM
Fix your boost sensor, nothing will work right with a bad sensor. You'll potentially see very bad bucking as well.


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: JulienR on May 28, 2019, 10:31:47 PM
It isnt the sensor , checked the wiring and replaced the sensor for a new one and no difference.


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: nbdiy on May 29, 2019, 12:07:41 AM
1,5bar boost? You will hit UADPLMX - max boost sensor voltage, its at 250kpa, and you have 150kpa boost+100kpa atm-pressure.


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: JulienR on May 29, 2019, 07:42:24 AM
1,5bar boost? You will hit UADPLMX - max boost sensor voltage, its at 250kpa, and you have 150kpa boost+100kpa atm-pressure.

thanks, is it possible to adjust this to higher kpa ?

UADPLMX is a different map than DSLOFS ?


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: nbdiy on May 29, 2019, 09:42:53 AM
Yes this is a different thing. If you change DSLOFS you will still reach ~5V at 1.5bar

there are few possible ways, but all of them are not easy if you don´t have enough knowledge about this ecu..
 
You can tweak UADPLMX (you will find two similar of them), so this error doesn´t occur, but you can´t control boost over 1,5bar then, this a thing you should know.
And you have to make sure internal calculated boost (ps_w) doesn´t go over 1,5bar, too.
If you go above this limit fueling won´t  be adjustable, this is why many people tend to underscale the maf.

The other ones are for a beginner not easy, too:
You can do the 5120-hack, and install a 500kpa, but this needs asm-knowledge

Or you fix load to boost calculation of the ecu entirely, then you are able to install 350 or 400kpa- sensor.
Then you don´t need asm-changes, but you need a really good undestanding of the ecu to adjust everything matching.


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: JulienR on May 30, 2019, 10:06:14 AM
Yes this is a different thing. If you change DSLOFS you will still reach ~5V at 1.5bar

there are few possible ways, but all of them are not easy if you don´t have enough knowledge about this ecu..
 
You can tweak UADPLMX (you will find two similar of them), so this error doesn´t occur, but you can´t control boost over 1,5bar then, this a thing you should know.
And you have to make sure internal calculated boost (ps_w) doesn´t go over 1,5bar, too.
If you go above this limit fueling won´t  be adjustable, this is why many people tend to underscale the maf.

The other ones are for a beginner not easy, too:
You can do the 5120-hack, and install a 500kpa, but this needs asm-knowledge

Or you fix load to boost calculation of the ecu entirely, then you are able to install 350 or 400kpa- sensor.
Then you don´t need asm-changes, but you need a really good undestanding of the ecu to adjust everything matching.


thanks for sharing your knowledge mate !
Will try someting  ;D


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: JulienR on May 31, 2019, 06:15:14 AM
Yes this is a different thing. If you change DSLOFS you will still reach ~5V at 1.5bar

there are few possible ways, but all of them are not easy if you don´t have enough knowledge about this ecu..
 
You can tweak UADPLMX (you will find two similar of them), so this error doesn´t occur, but you can´t control boost over 1,5bar then, this a thing you should know.
And you have to make sure internal calculated boost (ps_w) doesn´t go over 1,5bar, too.
If you go above this limit fueling won´t  be adjustable, this is why many people tend to underscale the maf.

The other ones are for a beginner not easy, too:
You can do the 5120-hack, and install a 500kpa, but this needs asm-knowledge

Or you fix load to boost calculation of the ecu entirely, then you are able to install 350 or 400kpa- sensor.
Then you don´t need asm-changes, but you need a really good undestanding of the ecu to adjust everything matching.


unfortunately i don't have UADPLMX in my XDF file , do you have any adresses of this map ?


Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: ttmk1 on February 09, 2023, 06:04:06 AM
Hello,

I have about the same configuration as you on my audi tt mk1 AUM engine and of course the same problem, to solve it, I installed a BCM in parallel of the N75 which allows me to limit the turbo pressure to 1.4 bars.
Did you find the solution more "professional"?

I hope not to bother you with my questions.
Thank you in advance.

Thank you in advance.

john

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Title: Re: K04-001 AUM after remap even with limiters off fault code boost sensor
Post by: nyet on February 09, 2023, 12:12:26 PM
I have about the same configuration as you on my audi tt mk1 AUM engine and of course the same problem, to solve it, I installed a BCM in parallel of the N75 which allows me to limit the turbo pressure to 1.4 bars.

Ya, don't do this. It isn't a solution.