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Noob Zone => Noob Guides and FAQs => Topic started by: totti on October 06, 2019, 11:13:07 AM



Title: Real time map change
Post by: totti on October 06, 2019, 11:13:07 AM
Hi,

Is it possible to change the maps in real time, when the engine is running? Currently what I'm doing is modify the bin, flash it and make a log. After that analyze the log and change again the bin and reflash. The reflash time is around 5 minutes and does not matter if I change only 1 bit. I saw some posts about emulators but I cannot find a good manual which one is good and how to use it.

Thanks for the help


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: GolfSportWagen on October 06, 2019, 04:49:44 PM
I've often wondered if "tuners" had software to allow real time changes like are possible with breakout boxes used by auto mfgs.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: nyet on October 06, 2019, 06:10:11 PM
yes, not magic, not secret, especially for older ecus that can be trivially modified to use a SRAM based ROM emulator.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: GolfSportWagen on October 06, 2019, 08:09:03 PM
I'm sure some people would pay for a practical application if cost effective so that they could tune on the dyno or roadway.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: nyet on October 06, 2019, 09:58:49 PM
Yes, and they can get it from moates, depending on ecu


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: GolfSportWagen on October 06, 2019, 10:26:11 PM
Thank you. I'm on it !  :)


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: totti on October 07, 2019, 02:55:46 AM
Yes, and they can get it from moates, depending on ecu

Hi nyet!

Can you provide a link what and where to buy?


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: d3irb on October 07, 2019, 01:48:50 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7545.0


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: totti on October 07, 2019, 11:28:14 PM
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=7545.0

Thanks I found that. With that it is possible to connect the emulator via the obd connector and I can change the maps while the engine is running?


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: prj on October 08, 2019, 12:17:50 AM
OBD connector LOL.

Dude, have you even tried going to moates site and looking up how roadrunner works?
You are asking things that can be solved in 30 seconds by just looking on their website.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: totti on October 08, 2019, 03:19:04 AM
OBD connector LOL.

Dude, have you even tried going to moates site and looking up how roadrunner works?
You are asking things that can be solved in 30 seconds by just looking on their website.

Yes I've read it. That's why I asked the question. I would like to tune the car during the engine is running. It is possible with ccp/xcp protocol with the newer electronics.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: prj on October 08, 2019, 03:19:54 AM
Clearly you did not read it or look at it if you're asking whether it can be connected by OBD.


Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: gt-innovation on October 08, 2019, 07:43:17 AM
Yes I've read it. That's why I asked the question. I would like to tune the car during the engine is running. It is possible with ccp/xcp protocol with the newer electronics.

Me7 does not have an integrated ccp/xcp potocol.. they had mcmess but clearly it was not for proper tuning.

https://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/115911/mcmess_protocol.txt



Title: Re: Real time map change
Post by: totti on October 08, 2019, 01:57:08 PM
i've found a good post about roadrunner and tunerpro https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?6888829-ME7-Emulator-DIY-version