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Technical => Tuning => Topic started by: Albertoak on March 27, 2020, 01:22:48 AM



Title: Problem with HPFP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: Albertoak on March 27, 2020, 01:22:48 AM
Hey guys!!!

Here I go again with a new problem / challenge ...

After reviewing the HPLP post on med9 several times and adjusting all the maps as I believe correct to demand 130bar:

KFPRSOLHKS = 130bar   
KFPRSOLHMM = 130bar   
KFPRSOLHOM = 130bar
KFPRSOLKH = 130bar
KFPRSOLOFF = 0bar      
KFPRSOLSCH = 130bar    
KLLFPRSG = 130bar = 0,509716
KLPRMAX = 130bar   
VHDP = 407,32 mm
RQUAHDPK = 24,01mm
SKHDPMX = 5,4mm    
PGBDVHDO = 136bar
KLPROV = 136bar
PRNL1 = 130bar

I have an INTEGRATEED pump up to 155bar, PRV RS4 (136bar) and the last ref. Hitachi pump.
LPFP stock. 2.0tfsi CDLD engine

I do not understand why the ecu ends up demanding 140 bar and in the gear change 1 peak of up to 160 bar is reflected ...

https://youtu.be/AehYRV9POxY

In the video it is seen in this order in polarfis:

HPFP sued
HPFP obtained
LPFP cycles
LPFP pressure

Attached capture of all modified HPFP maps.

(https://i.ibb.co/7Jb0swz/HPFP.png) (https://ibb.co/PZtVq7Y)

And the LPFP maps

(https://i.ibb.co/zbLLV3d/LPFP.png) (https://ibb.co/VDhhYF6)


Something escapes, but I don't know what ...

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Problem with HPLP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: Tezotto01 on March 27, 2020, 06:58:29 AM
if you read the FR correctly you will see that the ECU requests 140Bar because in deceleration the real pressure = requested pressure.

This sensor measures at max up to 140, that is, if your current pressure is reaching this value your pressure may be going much higher ...


Title: Re: Problem with HPLP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: Albertoak on March 27, 2020, 07:29:58 AM
if you read the FR correctly you will see that the ECU requests 140Bar because in deceleration the real pressure = requested pressure.

This sensor measures at max up to 140, that is, if your current pressure is reaching this value your pressure may be going much higher ...


I do not understand what it means ... in the video you can see that it is not a slowdown.  it is an acceleration.  I not understand what you're saying...
 ... and I understand that the HPFP sensor measures up to 200 Bar, according to table V vs Bar.


Title: Re: Problem with HPLP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: IamwhoIam on March 27, 2020, 07:34:35 AM
How about posting real logs instead of videos?


Title: Re: Problem with HPLP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: Albertoak on March 27, 2020, 07:40:07 AM
How about posting real logs instead of videos?

the video shows perfectly how the HPFP reacts.  you need to see more and I inform you.

I think this is a common bad that happens in 2.0 tfsi CDL engines and that several people in this forum have already solved.  It would be nice if they wrote.


@Tezotto01.  is one of them because of what he said in the HPFP post principal.  but I don't understand what he meant ...


Title: Re: Problem with HPLP demand in MED-9.1
Post by: Albertoak on March 29, 2020, 04:10:17 AM
if you read the FR correctly you will see that the ECU requests 140Bar because in deceleration the real pressure = requested pressure.

This sensor measures at max up to 140, that is, if your current pressure is reaching this value your pressure may be going much higher ...

I don't understand why you said about the sensor ... there you see the KLPRAIL table. I guess maybe you mean tfsi k03 ...

(https://i.ibb.co/MkH2nJX/Sin-t-tulo.png) (https://imgbb.com/)