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Technical => Diagnostics => Topic started by: zotrix1 on November 14, 2021, 10:47:12 AM



Title: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: zotrix1 on November 14, 2021, 10:47:12 AM
Hello,
I have a problem with my a3 8l AUQ engine. Setup:
- K03s hybrid
- 380cc
- DP
- FMIC
- custom TIP
Cylinder head had a regeneration half year ago and problem still exist. Intake is hermetic.There are OIL CATCH TANK, new spark plugs PRF7Q,  and new Beru ZSE051 coils with new wiring. Fuel pressure is correct. Compression on each cylinder is 11,5bar. Im sorry that logs are not from ME7Logger, I have an error ( code 4, i have to create new kline to ECU ), so I post vcds logs done on original ECU map.

https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526382#H8KLCADDmUrCkWECA03CjEEKw4MwDATDv8KiwrMECU1fE3xwa8OhCFI7w4hyScO7w7rDhA7ClB53Z3bDpxnCnsO5w7XCkMOEFDXDl8KtAA4OW8K5ZsKVL8KfESFyYsO1w4ZwwpHDtGY1wrJMO8O5XcOaw6LDmiwSwpjCgjdfw5haeUPDk8OKwo3DuBDDqMOzwpNBJS7DlsOPTsOzD8OMA8OecXIIY8KHwr5aLsObKsO9bMKcwpw7ADFPJ8KOwq0AAAA= (https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526382#H8KLCADDmUrCkWECA03CjEEKw4MwDATDv8KiwrMECU1fE3xwa8OhCFI7w4hyScO7w7rDhA7ClB53Z3bDpxnCnsO5w7XCkMOEFDXDl8KtAA4OW8K5ZsKVL8KfESFyYsO1w4ZwwpHDtGY1wrJMO8O5XcOaw6LDmiwSwpjCgjdfw5haeUPDk8OKwo3DuBDDqMOzwpNBJS7DlsOPTsOzD8OMA8OecXIIY8KHwr5aLsObKsO9bMKcwpw7ADFPJ8KOwq0AAAA=)

https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526384#H8KLCADDu0rCkWECA23CjUEKw4MwDATDv8KiwrMMdcKbw58YH8OURsK4wobDhArCshLDksK+wr5xDMKlwoced8KGYUMAw6VZNnYjGVU2QMKPwrfCiMO/w7DCtcOhwofDjMO3XMOYJcKVdcKpwoDClw4nw5HDvMOmYyIkLsKsZAzDncKUwo3DlcKcwonDmx3DrcK5FcK9wqFxdMKvLwLDjcOpaWdywrzDvcKIw6BxwogIw75UwrTCmsOUZcOKw5bCjB9iw7wAEENIQsK/AAAA (https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526384#H8KLCADDu0rCkWECA23CjUEKw4MwDATDv8KiwrMMdcKbw58YH8OURsK4wobDhArCshLDksK+wr5xDMKlwoced8KGYUMAw6VZNnYjGVU2QMKPwrfCiMO/w7DCtcOhwofDjMO3XMOYJcKVdcKpwoDClw4nw5HDvMOmYyIkLsKsZAzDncKUwo3DlcKcwonDmx3DrcK5FcK9wqFxdMKvLwLDjcOpaWdywrzDvcKIw6BxwogIw75UwrTCmsOUZcOKw5bCjB9iw7wAEENIQsK/AAAA)

https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526385#H8KLCAANS8KRYQIDTcKLQQ7DgjAMBMO/w6LCsy3CtVDDuEzClEPCoFbCsFTDosOKcVHDocO1wpBWQj3DrsOMTghww5fDp00KUzZdw6YKw5hFbHBSwpMPw78mQsOmw4LClsKcYTfDpcOFw6bDpEorwqVVWsKxN2kcw6nDvUdgwpIfwr4lwpXDvSDDggnDjzjDoAXCrxHCocOfDmlxwq3DsyTDnnw/w4TDuAV1w6fDokLClwAAAA== (https://log.tunezilla.com/chart/526385#H8KLCAANS8KRYQIDTcKLQQ7DgjAMBMO/w6LCsy3CtVDDuEzClEPCoFbCsFTDosOKcVHDocO1wpBWQj3DrsOMTghww5fDp00KUzZdw6YKw5hFbHBSwpMPw78mQsOmw4LClsKcYTfDpcOFw6bDpEorwqVVWsKxN2kcw6nDvUdgwpIfwr4lwpXDvSDDggnDjzjDoAXCrxHCocOfDmlxwq3DsyTDnnw/w4TDuAV1w6fDokLClwAAAA==)


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: fknbrkn on November 14, 2021, 01:41:01 PM
KR created for being non zero obviously
Its pretty good timing for a stock and i didnt see any issue here


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: zotrix1 on November 14, 2021, 02:45:59 PM
KR created for being non zero obviously
Its pretty good timing for a stock and i didnt see any issue here
There is ignition retard 7,5° on 4 cylinder. Isn't it too much for stock map? My purpose was getting around 240hp from this setup but ignition retards are making it impossible..


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: fknbrkn on November 14, 2021, 04:25:42 PM
Retards are relative
They could appear when rl is lower than it actually is for example
Concentrate at ignition angle, its good to go


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: zotrix1 on November 15, 2021, 12:48:20 AM
Retards are relative
They could appear when rl is lower than it actually is for example
Concentrate at ignition angle, its good to go
Ok, can you tell me one more thing - what KR means?


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: Norwegian1.8T on November 15, 2021, 01:28:03 AM
Ok, can you tell me one more thing - what KR means?

LAMFAWKR


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: zotrix1 on November 15, 2021, 06:48:42 AM
LAMFAWKR
Thanks, im a begineer :P So what I have to do now? KR map have to be edited to get rid of ignition retards?


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: zotrix1 on November 20, 2021, 03:30:55 AM
Ok, problem is solved. I've changed the MAF and ignition retard went to 0 on each cylinder. I didn't expect that cause my friend gave me his one to check and nothing changed. Weird...


Title: Re: 1.8T Ignition retard
Post by: prj on November 20, 2021, 04:41:21 AM
That means old one was underreading and new one is reading correctly.
So now load is higher, fuel is richer and ignition is later as well.