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Title: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 17, 2013, 12:27:40 PM
Hello guys,

I would like to ask for a favor. I bought myself an Audi A3 1.8T from 2000 and I am not sure if it is chituned. As a starting point to play around with it I'd like to have the latest original software on it.

How can I figure out, if it is stock software? It identifies as 06A906032AS in Version 0004. I dumped the software and attached it. Could somebody check it for me? Or if it is simplier give me a stock file in version 0004 or newer?

Thanks.

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vdubnation on March 17, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
from what i see it looks pretty stock


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 18, 2013, 12:17:33 AM
Hello vdubnation,

thanks for the info and checking my file. :-)
Do you know if it is the newest version for this engine?

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vagenwerk on March 18, 2013, 12:01:46 PM
Do you have map pack for this file ?


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 18, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
Sorry,
unfortuately I do not have. I tried the last hours to make a xdf-file for it by modifing from another 1,8t model, but I failed. The differences seem to big for me.
I used this one "Sander_AUDI_TT_2001_224hp_Q" from this forum, because there an xdf exists from another member. But I am beginner.

Yogi

 


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vagenwerk on March 18, 2013, 01:04:41 PM
maybe try with this it is similar ecu

Audi TT 1.8T ATC 180HP 8N0906018S 0261206582 352751 OLS
http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1665.0title=


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: fever on March 20, 2013, 04:26:32 AM
Think, this one should suit


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vagenwerk on March 20, 2013, 10:28:33 AM
I think it doesn't suit ?


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 20, 2013, 11:05:45 AM
Think, this one should suit
I will reply but give me some time. I have to learn a lot and actually I am fighting with this .dam files...
But playing with this stuff is fun :-)

By the way, from what I see at the moment:
The 8N0906018S ATC 180hp and my 06A906032AS ARZ150HP seem to be very similar. ATC has more power, some map adresses differ a little bit, but from what I see is the main difference between this engines only the LDRXN-map. The ATC also seems to habe the KKK K03 loader.
Would it be possible to copy that LDRXN-map into my 06A906032AS file, correct chechsums, flash it and enjoy 30hp more in my car? Does abody know more differences?

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 20, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
Think, this one should suit
Sorry, I does not fit.

Best match is still Audi TT 1.8T ATC 180HP 8N0906018S 0261206582 352751 OLS frm gregor10. Some 3d map differ a little bit in adress locations.

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 20, 2013, 12:15:28 PM
Sorry, I does not fit.

Best match is still Audi TT 1.8T ATC 180HP 8N0906018S 0261206582 352751 OLS frm gregor10. Some 3d map differ a little bit in adress locations.

Yogi

Sorry, I was wrong. The file seems to fit. I did an error with the damos import, but now it looks good! :-)
thank you!!!

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 20, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
Okay guys,

thanks for your help. I was able to open, check, compare and modify my file with others. perfect :-)

By doing this I got an idea. The ARZ 150HP and ATC 180HP engine seem to be very similar. So I decided to compare both files and the only difference I found where the maps for LDRXN and LDRXNZK. From my research the turbochargers seem to be the same...KKK K03.

So I copied the ATC maps for maximum specified load into my ARZ file and corrected checksums. It will be tested tomorrow on my car.

The resulting file comes here.

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vagenwerk on March 20, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Good start with tuning. But be aware of potential risks. So log CR (knock sensors) , fuel trims, boost and the rest.
You should also copy the fuel maps-  kflbts , kfddlbts maps which, because 180hp maps would be different as usual.

Also you should check afr using wideband lambda to make sure that you aren't run lean.

Good luck


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 21, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
Hi,

I followed gregor10's hint and he was right, there where als differences in kflbts , kfddlbts maps.

Here comes the fix. Test in Germany is delayed because of snow and summer tires ....  ::)

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 24, 2013, 05:22:47 AM
Okay, update,

waether is better and test is done. Software-mod to 180HP runs good, but on high load at 180km/h there is a slight power drop. I flashed back to stock-rom, same problem.... I think that MAF-sensor is faulty, because on full pull it only goes to 105 g/s. I ordered a new one, we will see if it solves the problem. I will go on with testing, if this problem is solved.

Yogi



Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vdubnation on March 26, 2013, 07:09:44 AM
try to run it with the maf unplugged and see if it comes up


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 26, 2013, 12:45:51 PM
I think there is more going on in that engine... I yust bought it and I want to fix it properly before I will go in with testing the software-mod. It throws Lamda-Error, I replaced Lambda-Sensor already. There was also a broken tube. Still Lambda error and very low MAF-values. Tomorrow I will install a new MAF-Sensor because the sensor plate looks very bad. And because of the lean mixture and resulting high EGT , no the exhaust manifault is cracked   :-\

I will report next week, after I finished the repairs.

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: vagenwerk on March 27, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
150hp maf should read 125g-135/s, 180hp maf reads 149-155g/s  so yours is dead.


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on March 29, 2013, 05:58:37 AM
Update....

new MAF installed, car runs better, but not perfect. MAF values are okay now, but still lambda error under load (it runs lean). Sensor is okay and idle also.

I did a pressure check with 1.5 bar on the boost system. Found 2 leaks ... intake manifold-gasket and tubing to the breake-system
There is also a pneumatic boost valve, which is leaking...

I will report, when the repairs are done... Almost an engine overhaul :-)

Yogi


Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: cocktailyogi on April 06, 2013, 12:40:28 AM
Hi, now I am making progress.

Now I fixed my leaks, replaced the boost valve and the blown exhaust manifold seals. Now car runs perfect, Lambda-values are okay, no knocking under high loads, boost control works perfect.

At this starting point I installed the modded file on ME7.5 with the 180HP TT-mapping. It runs perfect. Car drives much better and no problems under high load. no kocking and it doesn't go lean. boost is stable in MWB 115

So much power in a small car like this is perfect. :-)  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for your help everybody!

Yogi



Title: Re: Is this dump original??? Audi A3 1.8T ARZ 06A906032AS
Post by: Patryk619 on April 04, 2018, 06:54:43 AM
I'm sorry for reviving the thread, but I have a question regarding the file attached in this post http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3472.0;attach=5782
Can I Flash this into my stock ARZ ecu and enjoy extra 30hp? Will it Flash and start with no problems? The author stated it worked just fine for him(the above post), I have even contacted him to ask for permision to use this but it seems he not visited the forum since December 2017.