NefMoto

This is the official Bosch documentation for the ME 7.1.

It's in German, but it is a text PDF, so you can select the text and translate it.

I am hoping I don't get assassinated or black listed for sharing this.

Most people already have this document and privately share it anyway. Not to mention that we may as well all have a standard to refer to, instead of making vague references to pieces of the some magic document.

Damn, now I gotta learn German.

That is one hell of a document. Thanks!

Thanks Tony. I have been scouring the planet looking for that.

Tony, you've made my day!!!

If you where a girl, i would throw big kisses !!! ;D

I was hopeing someone would be so kind to share this one...

And that day has come :)

Thanks !

this will help a lot with some of the words that google just doesn't get...

Great! A lot to read and learn. If I ever find the time to work through this document ...
At least I speak german, can't imagine how anybody handles this with translating everything.

Thanks!

My head will hurt a lot after this, but at least I will learn some German :D

Lots of sleepless nights and bugging my German friends!

Epic.  Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Tony!  That should keep me busy for a few hours.

Jay

I would remove this document Tony, for reasons im sure you are aware of.  Its not fair to some.

"cat's out of the bag"

People send me this document for free about once a month by email. Everyone already has it.

Having this document won't make anyone a good tuner on it's own.

Everything I design for my job is based on information in the public domain. I an paid because I can use that information to innovate and create. Copyright issues aside this information just enables those with commitment and talent to rise above those who are mediocre, yet hold the information.

Thanks again for posting Tony.

I understand this specific document is the most widely available one to the public domain, i just hope we dont burn bridges as you have said before in the past.  It sure would be unfortunate to lose contacts.

I'm not planning on releasing any other documents.

The more people know about ME7 tuning, easier it should be to identify bad tuners, and allow us to send the business to the good tuners.

I have been using this pdf for the last 2 years now, without it I would be stuffed now on a few big turbo projects. My mate is a calibrator for Jaguar and is teaching me to read all the flow charts, YX switchs and 00 11 toggles.

I also have a Fiat Me7 PDF in english which help translate and read the German me7.5 pdf as most of the information realtes to both ecus. 

Can I post it up?

Nick

If you post the document, I will freely host it. None of my contacts have ever exchanged Fiat information with me, so I don't believe anyone will hold me at fault.

By the way, I guess if someone has some older ECU documents, like M3.8, M2.10, M1.5 it would help too... mainly because jump right to ME7 can be a "little" hard without fully undestand the way Bosch decided to make the things, took very years to clarify how many things are and Why...

What other documents there are that are needed? No need to put those available, but the names would be nice :)

There are similar documents for every version of Bosch ECUs...

I would LOVE a copy of the FIAT ME7 doc

Please, do post that one. Highly appreciated !

Thanks,

PvL

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Wish I had a time machine to go back and get this for free....

I will drag it off my lappy tomorrow and post it up.   ;D

I would also like m3.3 docs :P

Thanks for sharing this Tony. I acquired it a couple of months ago while researching a FAQ/Technical article on tuning and had to pay some money for it, but never mind. It's nice to see some refreshing honesty rather than lame secrecy. Yes, we all have it and its traded freely in private and no, having a funktionsrahmen doesn't instantly make anyone into a good tuner!

I found Google's translation engine very good (along with dict.cc) for translating the necessary parts.

I attach an Excel 2003 workbook with about 6700 technical terms and their English translation. That might come in useful to someone.

Cheers.

Doug

I've got most of what I need from the German version, but it would nevertheless be very useful to have an analogous document in English.

Looking forward to that Nick.

Regards.

Doug

Exactly........FML

I have absolutely zero sympathy. Having it "early" either had value, or it didn't. Either way, the information "economy" that surrounds ME tuning makes me ill.

I requested a quote from a company that specializes in translating technical documents about getting this translated. Without seeing the document, they quoted me at $100,000-$200,000. Anyone want to contribute....lol.

I'll do it for half that. Let say 10 pages a night, that'll be about 6 months :D

As I said in my earlier post, try copying and pasting it into Google's translation engine. I found this to be usefully accurate. Word order was sometimes awry, but if you know roughly what you're expecting to read (i.e. some background knowledge of Motronic functionalities is required), it's not too difficult to get a meaningful translation of the bits you need. Dict.cc is also very good at dealing with technical terms.

If you're looking for any modules containing a specific function, just search for the key word or function and then translate the main ones.

Try it out!

Doug

Trust me, I have been doing this, but it's slow to say the least. Thanks for the dict.cc tip.

Dare I ask how much of it you're trying to translate right now? I'd offer to help if it was a few modules...

Doug

I bought a map a few months back and although it's good, it has a few niggling flaws so I'm learning slowly what I need to do to make it fit me better. I only have the odd evening so as and when I get a chance I translate a few modules.

What you just shared is more help to me that you'd think. Thank you.

I know what you mean. Translating technical German, even with the massive help of an automated electronic facility is satisfying in itself.

Like optical character recognition software, I had low expectations of it providing any useful accuracy, but I recently discovered the excellent ABBYY Finereader software for that and was pleasantly surprised by Google's effort for translation...

Doug

Thanks for posting this!
As said, many sleepless nights ahead :)...

I used to be working with OEM factory with EDC17/7 ECU:s as a calibrator and this is a great find since I need to work on some ME gasoline ECU:s now as I started working with aftermarket equipment recently.

Any news for the english Fiat version?

Is there a K3/EAC111 doc out there?

referenced in the LDRUE function app notes:


4. Waste gate (spring) according to interpret. Application Note No. K3/EAC - #111

Hey guys, I've been dealing with trying to get the best relatively quick English translation of this document possible, without expensive tools.  I'm going to be doing the whole document and posting it up here in English (rough), but there's two ways to go about it that I'm deciding between.  I've got a rough setup of the first 75 pages that shows the weaknesses of each method, and I need you guys to look over the documents and compare them to each other and to the original to tell me which way is the best.

You know what, after thinking about it, I'm probably going to do it both ways, so if one has a question about the translation (they're both kinda rough), they can see if it's said slightly differently in the other before they go breaking out a dictionary.

thanks for taking the time to do this.
I still haven't had time to go through this like i should.

Hi nokiafix, any chance you could post that Fiat doc? Would be nice to take a look at it :)

Do you have FDEF's to trade from when you were a calibrator?

I bet if you search google, you will find a full English version of the Funktionsrahmen for ME7.

Awesome work jib!

Whats the best way to upload the pdf?

Nick

You can upload it here as an attachment to a post.

Preferably attach the PDF to your post. If it exceeds the file attachment size of 16megs(I think) then I can copy it to the web server for hosting manually.

Never mind. My pdf reader sucks.

Technical translations English<->German are part of my job and I've seen much more difficult documents, but good grief.. 1880 pages, I'd be retired before I'd have finished that.

p.s. nonetheless, if someone has a specific question, shoot.

You're a brave man! hehe You should give us your home phone number too so we can call @ 3am!  ;D

I forgot all about this sorry.  It may be already on the site but I will post any way.

Me7 with english

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ao2bxx9k8n25d5w/FRE07E0%20RTP.rar


Nick

Anyone has BBKHZ full diagrams (i mean for turbo applications)? The one that we have from Alfa 2.0l BTS is for naturally aspired engines and doesn't have all the maps needed to completely understand this function...

Here is the Alfa 2.0l FR provided by nokiafix above.

 :-* Mucho's gracias!

the link says the file has been deleted

Two posts up ^^
                   

Thanks for this night reading!  ;)

Thanks for uploading this document and it is very useful

many thanks mate!

Hello guys,

thank you very much for this FDEF.

Together with the MED9 FDEF you have a very good documentation of the ecu's.

Unfortunately, I don't find often specific maps described in this document, but I find them in the wiki in the MED9 abbreviations.

For example:
I wanted to see the function of the dump valve diagnosis on ME7.9.10.
I see there is a measuring time TMDSUVR.
If I look in the MED9 document found in this forum and on this document, that map is not described.
But on the wiki on this page I found it on MED9 abbreviations.

Are there some more doc's like this around?
I would be very thankful for any hint.

Best regards

prefect, If anyone has any issues reading this give me a shout. I know everything about this. Question I want to know is how did you get hold of it?

I don't see how it matters how someone came into this file.  It has been floating around the internet for sometime now.

As for you knowing everything about this, good then I hope to see you posting and helping out in this forum :)

Welcome!

I look forwards to your participation.

Please have a look at the s4wiki tuning guide.. i could use some feedback!

http://s4wiki.com/wiki/Tuning

Is anyone could have the same doc for the older Motronic M1.5.5. this look close, but without the wired accelerator pedal ?

thanks your advices.

Thank for your shared!

Thanks a lot!

Dear Sirs,

Thank you very much for sharing this PDF. :)

BRs,
Jingyeu