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Title: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on March 17, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
Please find attached five fully-defined .OLS files (i.e. all data is categorised as per the 335 Motronic ME7.5 funktionsrahmen modules

Audi S4 2.7 V6 Biturbo 8D0 907 551 G 0261206776 360855
Audi 2.0 FSI
Audi 2.0 TFSI 8P0 907 115 200261B00486
Audi TT 1.8T 180 PS 8N0 906 018 BR 0261206439
Audi TT 1.8T 225 PS BAM 8N0 906 018 CB

No DAMOS files are fully official so be careful because there are some known glitches, e.g. the mrfa_w axis and map values in LAMFA being one of the most well known. See this post for clarification on why:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,141.msg9068.html#msg9068

TTQS


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: pvl on March 17, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
Thanks Big style !!!

PvL


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on March 18, 2011, 04:47:48 AM
I could only manage to upload two files before the 16 MB limit was exceeded. I had initially presumed that I wouldn't be able to upload anything except very small files as per many other forums, hence just went down the links route. 16 Mb is pretty useful but a lot of these definition files are 4 to 7 MB each.

Thanks for the advice.

TTQS


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: Tony@NefMoto on March 18, 2011, 11:21:36 AM
I upped the attachments limits, now they are 16megs per attachment, 32megs per post.

I edited your post so all attachments are now in the first post.

We have a responsible community here, so I am OK with having large limits on file attachments.


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: fredrik_a on March 19, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Is it just me, or does the 2.0TFSI-file have some sort of strange offset for the map descriptions?


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: littco on March 22, 2011, 03:44:26 AM
Can I ask where these fully defined file come from? Are they available to download somewhere or are they "classified" and hard to get hold of?


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on March 22, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
Can I ask where these fully defined file come from? Are they available to download somewhere or are they "classified" and hard to get hold of?


I was unable to find anything useful to my cause that was freely available on amateur tuning websites so I bought them as a 'job lot' of Audi definition files as this was a better deal than I was offered for just the Audi TT 225 PS BAM file alone. The four I've posted up here were the most useful, for obvious reasons.

I'm afraid I don't know their origins beyond the person I bought them off so can't comment further on how they were constructed or how much work went into doing so.

TTQS


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: majorahole on March 23, 2011, 08:28:26 AM
is the 2.0 tfsi similar to the vw 2.0 tfsi in the mk5 golf gti?
this would be great


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on March 23, 2011, 10:48:16 AM
I would assume so, yes but I would have to load up the Volkswagen section of ETKA to check the part number.

TTQS


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: robin on March 27, 2011, 07:05:28 PM
Yes, the 115 file is a 2.0TFSI.


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: highflyer on March 30, 2011, 04:54:02 AM
just tried looking at the BAM .ols in winols and it's asking for a password? Have I missed something.


Title: Re: Four fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: highflyer on March 30, 2011, 05:01:48 AM
Ignore that! sorry I opened it as an .olsx by mistake.....


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 21, 2011, 12:55:39 PM
Bump. The following files have been added

Audi A4 1.8T 150 PS ME7.5.ols
Audi TT 1.8T 180 PS 8N0 906 018 BR 0261206439.ols


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: julex on April 22, 2011, 08:08:59 AM
That S4 project file is a gold mine! Thanks.


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 23, 2011, 08:49:08 AM
I'm glad they've been useful. Hopefully the general cause of amateur ECU tuning has been advanced and that the relatively small amount of money I spent on them all wasn't wasted.

TTQS


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: gremlin on April 23, 2011, 04:33:18 PM
Audi A4 1.8T 150 PS ME7.5

Make a corrections.
It isn't 1.8T file.
This ols is for Audi RS4 2.7T ME7.1
Very close to 8D0907551F 0261206635 ECU


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 25, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
O.k. Thanks. I'll remove it.

I had a look at the LDRXN characteristic myself the other day and it looked wrong (too high values compared to the 225 & 240 PS variants) so I guess that's why.

I'll have another look.

TTQS


Title: Re: Six fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: julex on April 25, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
O.k. Thanks. I'll remove it.

I had a look at the LDRXN characteristic myself the other day and it looked wrong (too high values compared to the 225 & 240 PS variants) so I guess that's why.

I'll have another look.

Doug

Don't remove it. Having fully defined RS4 file is very valuable.


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: Twiki on April 29, 2011, 04:11:06 AM
O.k. Thanks. I'll remove it.

I had a look at the LDRXN characteristic myself the other day and it looked wrong (too high values compared to the 225 & 240 PS variants) so I guess that's why.

I'll have another look.

Doug

Don't remove it. Having fully defined RS4 file is very valuable.

I agree - don't remove it (but what happened to it, or where is it posted / added?

Regards


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 29, 2011, 12:12:03 PM
O.k.! I'll re-post it then, but there's already the S4 2.7T file there, so is it adding much?

TTQS


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: Tony@NefMoto on April 29, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
The 8D0907551G OLS file should be the same file I posted here: http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,201.0.html

It was the first definition file I posted.  ;)



Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 29, 2011, 12:57:42 PM
O.k. then, here's the repost of the file that I thought was an A4 1.8T ME7.5 ECU but was close to an Audi RS4 2.7T ME7.1 8D0 907 551 F 0261206635 ECU...

TTQS


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: Twiki on April 29, 2011, 01:39:43 PM
Thanks Doug. Now would it not be nice is all of this was in plain English...!  :)
If you say 'close' to RS4 file, how close is that, and can you indicate where the differences are? The previous file (.ori) for the RS4 I saw here was just > 1MB, but now this OLS file is 5MB - is this because of the additional definition bits that WinOls require? And how would I go from the OLS to the BIN file, or is this step not necessary? In the end I would like to flash a T-box with an RS4 file (I have the T-box, RS4 injectors & MAF, but need to tune it for use with K04/RS6 turbos), so any ideas for the easiest way to do this would be appreciated. I have the Tunerpro demo as well as the WinOls demo, but me newbie gets confused quite easily...! Btw, keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: TTQS on April 30, 2011, 02:36:06 AM
Hi Twiki.

Unfortunately, nothing to do with understanding ECU code or tuning it is easy for the newbie, or indeed for the experienced. The nearest thing you're going to get to plain English is plain Deutsch!  ;)

I've said this elsewhere on this forum, but it's probably worth reiterating here: some months ago, I bought a collection of Audi ECU definition files from a tuner when researching a technical bulletin/FAQ for another forum + my own interest on ECU remapping for the Audi TT engine variants. I have looked through them and posted up the ones which appeared to be authentic and with all konstanten, kennlinien & kennfelder fully-defined as per the 335 'modules' as I call them in the ME7.5 funktionsrahmen in the WinOLS .ols file format. This means that anyone with an interest can download the test version of WinOLS and browse all the parameters in real-world (i.e. scaled and offset) form. In that respect, they differ from the basic binary format files (labeled .bin or .ori) which are just collections of hex code that, otherwise, someone would have to interpret and define manually, usually by comparison with a similar, known file.

The fully-defined DAMOS, A2L or .ols files are so much larger because they contain all that extra information over and above the plain binary/hex code.

I know nothing more about the files because I've never worked with them or tried to tune them and flash back to an ECU. The only files I have any experience with are the TT 1.8T 225 PS BAM and 240 PS BFV variants. The one I posted up which was commented by gremlin to not be an A4 150 PS 1.8T engine variant I can only offer with cautions and caveats attached. I removed it because of the uncertainty, but you guys wanted it all the same, so there you go. I can't help any further with that one.

I don't even know how you would save the .ols file as a plain binary, but it sounds like something WinOLS can do. If it can't, have a look around all the internet forums dedicated to amateur ECU tuning for the binary file you're after. Chances are it will be out there somewhere. Moderators generally don't tend to like people telling their members to go to another forum, so I won't do that! ;)

We seem to have plenty of good professional tuners distributed around the U.K. so for a few hundred pounds, you can get a good remap and it isn't worth trying it yourself except for an academic exercise or personal challenge. But I guess that with the size and remoteness of North America and Canada, means that you might be a long way away from a good Bosch ECU remapper.

TTQS


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: Twiki on May 02, 2011, 03:19:41 AM
OK, I'll look around the net some more...

We seem to have plenty of good professional tuners distributed around the U.K. so for a few hundred pounds, you can get a good remap and it isn't worth trying it yourself except for an academic exercise or personal challenge. But I guess that with the size and remoteness of North America and Canada, means that you might be a long way away from a good Bosch ECU remapper.

Doug

Considering that I'm nowhere near the US, Canada or the UK (I'm in South Africa) this makes it even more of a challange!  :) I got the T-Box from a used spares dealer in the US and knowing somebody who live over there who could pass it on to someone from here who went there for a visit and... never mind - long story!  ::)

Thanks again!


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: julex on May 05, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
OK, I'll look around the net some more...

We seem to have plenty of good professional tuners distributed around the U.K. so for a few hundred pounds, you can get a good remap and it isn't worth trying it yourself except for an academic exercise or personal challenge. But I guess that with the size and remoteness of North America and Canada, means that you might be a long way away from a good Bosch ECU remapper.

Doug

Considering that I'm nowhere near the US, Canada or the UK (I'm in South Africa) this makes it even more of a challange!  :) I got the T-Box from a used spares dealer in the US and knowing somebody who live over there who could pass it on to someone from here who went there for a visit and... never mind - long story!  ::)

Thanks again!


There is a simple solution to your problem. If your S4 is manual, just take M file posted in tuning forum for stage 3 car and flash that. There is a pretty nicely done XDf file for tunerpro for it so all the hard work is already done.



Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: spatullo on April 05, 2013, 03:47:14 AM
I tried to download and open the AUDI TT TFSI OLS, but it seems that all the definitiuons isn't centered on the map, or something similar. Can someone else check please?

I have the same problem with a Golf V TFSI OLS that I alreadt have.


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: automan001 on July 30, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
I want to make a note regarding  provided here Audi 2.0 TFSI 8P0 907 115 0261B00486.OLS
It is incorrectly defined. Offsets and axises are shifted. Just look at basic maps (KFZW, LDRXN, LAMFA, KFLBTS). You will see nothing. The data doesn't look realistic. So, I had to go back to sources. Found D915A_41W200.s19, converted it into .bin, fixed header, imported maps from D915A_41W200.a2l exported into .kp and .ols
Result looks perfect 8) I'm proud. Das ist fantastish! :) It looks like we've got more-less readable file for ME9.1 2.0 TFSI
Though, I've noticed LAMFA has same problems with offsets as in ME7.5, so you have to add +1 to map offset (1D43F4 instead of 1D43F3) and +1 to the X axis (1D43E8 instead of 1D43E8)
.ols is attached (be aware that file was created using an illegal WinOls version  ;D )
Fixed .bin and .kp I've uploaded here http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1085.15


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: fulloptional on December 20, 2013, 03:33:39 AM
i Need the TT 225 .ols project file but in .bin or .mod format so i can properly test it .

Thank you!


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: adam- on December 20, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
Both files have checksum problems.

I suggest you learn how to use winOLS.  Took me 30 seconds to prepare this..

Software number looks iffy - I'm used to seeing 001 or 002, not EU..



Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: ddillenger on December 20, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
DO NOT RUN THESE FILES ON YOUR CAR.

These are pre-production calibrator files, they are not complete, and may not be safe.

You have been warned.


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: MIL_on on January 22, 2014, 05:33:59 AM
additional note, just to confuse a little bit more :D:
The Bosch nr. 0261206795 refers to the VW nr: 8N0906018H.


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: vwaudiguy on February 06, 2015, 11:20:56 AM
DO NOT RUN THESE FILES ON YOUR CAR.

These are pre-production calibrator files, they are not complete, and may not be safe.

You have been warned.

Are they ok to use just as definitions, modding an Original file?


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: majorahole on February 06, 2015, 12:42:10 PM
Are they ok to use just as definitions, modding an Original file?
yes, he was referring to coping in the bins as a stock map. which no one should do anyway, but some people are hmm....not so smart. therefore the disclaimer


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: vwaudiguy on February 06, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
Thanks!!


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: automan001 on May 22, 2015, 07:10:33 AM
Here is an update for 2.0TFSI file 8P0907115B VW Jetta GLI 2.0TFSI BPY 200HP
A2l file was properly imported with correct axis & offsets. Now all main maps for tuning look perfect and match definition in .a2l where you can find many variable & map locations which will help disassembling.

In attached 8P0907115B VAG 2.0TFSI MED9.1.ZIP you will find:
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.a2l
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.bin
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.kp
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.ols

It's a good pack for learning (.kp, .ols) and disassembling (.a2l) MED9.1


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: mickey51 on March 06, 2018, 03:28:03 AM
thanks for your job  ;)


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: madconfusion on May 06, 2018, 07:40:59 PM

Thanks

Here is an update for 2.0TFSI file 8P0907115B VW Jetta GLI 2.0TFSI BPY 200HP
A2l file was properly imported with correct axis & offsets. Now all main maps for tuning look perfect and match definition in .a2l where you can find many variable & map locations which will help disassembling.

In attached 8P0907115B VAG 2.0TFSI MED9.1.ZIP you will find:
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.a2l
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.bin
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.kp
VW 2.0 TFSI 8P0907115B.ols

It's a good pack for learning (.kp, .ols) and disassembling (.a2l) MED9.1


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: drews3 on March 17, 2021, 02:26:28 AM
Please find attached five fully-defined .OLS files (i.e. all data is categorised as per the 335 Motronic ME7.5 funktionsrahmen modules

Audi S4 2.7 V6 Biturbo 8D0 907 551 G 0261206776 360855
Audi 2.0 FSI
Audi 2.0 TFSI 8P0 907 115 200261B00486
Audi TT 1.8T 180 PS 8N0 906 018 BR 0261206439
Audi TT 1.8T 225 PS BAM 8N0 906 018 CB

No DAMOS files are fully official so be careful because there are some known glitches, e.g. the mrfa_w axis and map values in LAMFA being one of the most well known. See this post for clarification on why:

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php/topic,141.msg9068.html#msg9068

TTQS
BIG THANKS BRO !! :)


Title: Re: Five fully-defined Audi .OLS Files (categorised as per funktionsrahmen)
Post by: bhager429 on July 08, 2022, 05:29:17 AM
Audi 2.0 TFSI 8P0 907 115 200261B00486? will this work with the 8e1 910 115 g?