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Title: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on January 22, 2016, 03:29:54 AM
Hi,

I'm interested in taking an EEPROM dump of my instrument cluster as a backup. I have vag+k can commander 2.5 and also vagdashcom.

I also have a dumb FTDI cable that I use with nef flasher, I'm assuming I should be able to use this cable with either of the two above mentioned bits of software?

Is there anything I should be aware of before I take a copy of the data safety wise so I don't muck anything up.

TIA


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: adam- on January 22, 2016, 03:43:07 AM
Use EEPROM Programmer 1.19 with your FTDI cable and it'll work fine.

Or can commander with the FTDI cable, make sure its set to k-line.  Choose appropriate cluster and read.

I find 1.19 to be more reliable.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: aef on January 22, 2016, 04:57:32 AM
adam can you attach a clean virus free 1.19 programmer or point me to the thread where i can find it.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: adam- on January 22, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
I'll upload it when I get home.  Don't let me forget. :)


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on January 22, 2016, 08:54:10 AM
Awesome cheers Adam :)

I was worried as I heard the VDO clocks can be a pain. I was also told the dump would be encrypted? Not sure how true that is though


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Lost on January 23, 2016, 01:52:35 AM
I'll upload it when I get home.  Don't let me forget. :)


Please do.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on January 25, 2016, 10:24:03 AM
This is what you're after i think?


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on January 25, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
To add to my thread, i tried to get a read from the instrument cluster but was unable to get a complete read. the data would stop reading mid way through. Ive used VAG K+Can 2.5, VAG eeprom programmer 1.19 and VAG k pin reader. Is there any reason why i may not have been able to get a full read. Using a normal ftdi kkl cable.

here is the read i managed to get.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Lost on January 25, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
This is what you're after i think?


Thank you very much!!


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: adam- on January 25, 2016, 12:11:38 PM
Well if that isn't stolen off my Google drive I dunno what is. :P


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on January 25, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
sorry Adam, shameful i know ::) though it may have saved you some time


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Lupsnow on January 30, 2016, 04:44:00 AM
I tried to read my valleo immo 3 eeprom 24c04 with the vag eeprom programmer v1.19g but I can't seem to connect to anything with it...
I have a rosstech 12.12 Hex+can clone usb cable. The cable works without any problems for VCDS 12.12.3. But any other software I try doesn't work even with boot in intelligent mode unchecked...
I have the rosstech vcp drivers installed and loaded.
I tried in the eeprom programmer set on usb connection and com 1.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: adam- on January 30, 2016, 08:55:30 AM
Try a dumb cable.  Is it assigned to Com 1?


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Lupsnow on January 31, 2016, 09:45:26 AM
I ordered a new cable... So I will see if it works than.

But thanks for your reply!


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Dave9n3 on February 01, 2016, 03:24:34 PM
Still unable to get a cluster read of mine :( I've tried a fair few programs and it seems to say EEPROM area blocked. Dash is VDO V06


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: eliotroyano on February 03, 2016, 05:45:11 AM
I have used Vag Eeprom programmer in the past and it is a nice software but I have notice that V1.19 versions around there are something unstable. Seems to me that V1.18 is better. Another trick during my research, tests and usage that makes V1.18 & V1.19 versions works better is to update KKL dll driver to same one used by VCDS Lite, for example. In other words take RT-USB.dll from VCDS directory, copy into Vag Eeprom programmer directory and rename as existing file VAGUSB.dll. That have done wonders with some tricky Clusters and Airbag modules too. Also don´t forget to check USB as port option.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: vwaudiguy on February 03, 2016, 12:59:12 PM
I have used Vag Eeprom programmer in the past and it is a nice software but I have notice that V1.19 versions around there are something unstable. Seems to me that V1.18 is better. Another trick during my research, tests and usage that makes V1.18 & V1.19 versions works better is to update KKL dll driver to same one used by VCDS Lite, for example. In other words take RT-USB.dll from VCDS directory, copy into Vag Eeprom programmer directory and rename as existing file VAGUSB.dll. That have done wonders with some tricky Clusters and Airbag modules too. Also don´t forget to check USB as port option.

Great info, thanks for sharing. Do you have a link to V1.18?


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: eliotroyano on February 05, 2016, 06:11:02 AM
Great info, thanks for sharing. Do you have a link to V1.18?

Here is......... ;)  ;). Just put directory in hard disk root.


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: Lupsnow on February 11, 2016, 04:34:41 AM
It worked for me with my new KKL cable with ch340 chip!!


Title: Re: Taking a backup of instrument cluster EEPROM
Post by: quip on September 08, 2017, 06:37:22 PM
Still unable to get a cluster read of mine :( I've tried a fair few programs and it seems to say EEPROM area blocked. Dash is VDO V06

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm having this exact issue. Did you ever find a solution, Dave9n3?