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« on: April 16, 2020, 07:11:47 PM »

just a quick and probably dumb question, will ARMD intervention show up in wkr columns in me7logger or just knock? I ask this because fuel and timing adjustments don't change anything im seeing in the log, however im still figuring out how to properly set kfmiop in correlation to kfmirl and the more I make changed in kfmiop the less timing pull I am seeing. Ive read everything on kfmiop I can find but for whatever reason its still confusing for me, ive looked at my stock file and it seems super easy and basic to setup but when I calculate the values the same way for a tuned file I get timing pull. I am currently seeing 3.75* of pull from 3000-6400rpm.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2020, 09:17:59 PM »

You're confusing 3 completely different things.

Also I can bet 100% whatever it is you are doing with IOP is wrong. It is not a map that is "tuned". Ever. Period. Least of all based on logged values.

It should be exactly the inverse operation of IRL. Period. In general, in fact you should leave it doing exactly what stock is doing in the regions it is not the inverse in stock files.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2020, 09:46:46 PM »

This is what I am referencing. The stock file makes complete sense, When I reference it to a stage 1 "reflect tuning" file these values no longer line up with the x axis however the car pulls great, no sign of adjustment to the torque monitor. If I make my kfmiop reflect my kfmirl in my tune I started from scratch the car pulls like a stock tune, however if I increase the last line of kfmiop to reference the last line of kfmirl the car pulls extremely well and actually blows through my clutch which is presumably weak considering its a 22psi tune.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2020, 09:49:48 PM »

I always say the same thing. Seems like this is the 5th time in as many days i've said this

Pick one thing to fix at a time. Usually the thing that is most obviously wrong.

Post logs that show the issue.

Do not move on to the next thing until that is solved.

So pick one thing from your list, and log for that, and post the logs.

I honestly can't tell from your OP what it is you are trying to solve.
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2020, 10:04:06 PM »

To my knowledge this kfmiop and kfmirl doesn't reference each other at all, but with this im able to pull a minimum of 200 load from 3200->5000 rpm this peaks 216 load from 3300-4000 and then tapers down to 152ish at 6700. kfmiop should look like the adjusted one I attached according to my knowledge unless the x axis absolutely has to be changed due to the gap between 145 and 220. can you tell me how terribly wrong I am with the iop and irl maps.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2020, 10:08:36 PM »

attached the wrong kfmiop, this is the one im currently utilizing
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2020, 10:17:14 PM »

This I the log on those maps, disregard the current AFR as I forgot to plug in the o2 sensor... the AFR request hits component protection because of it in the higher rpms. the richest afr Im requesting at this point is .82
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2020, 10:22:36 PM »

Not worth looking at logs with issues.

Again. Fix one thing at a time.

Fix the most obvious thing first.

Do not mix problems. I don't know how often I have to repeat myself.

Proper tuning requires discipline and patience.

You may think I'm not serious, or that your situation is special or unique, so this yours is an exceptional case. It isn't.
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