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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2012, 04:31:21 AM »
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no one here offering help
it always abt money
just want to know what to study and from what college to understand alll the ecus
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2012, 05:19:23 AM »
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A GTI is DIY tunable via port flash as is a Golf R Golf R has MED9 which can be read via OBD with relatively cheap tools. G6 GTIs are equipped with MED17 and requires different tools. I'm not sure about 2.5l specifically, but some (not all) MED17 versions require opening the ecu and using TriCore bootloader (there is an alternative though, but i think you might find breaking the 1024bit RSA encryption even more difficult and time consuming). There is no cheap way to do this. If you figure something out, please let me know. If i were you, i'd download original file of some VAG MED17 and compare it to Ford or whatever equivalent. 2.5l org file might be difficult to find, but you could just ask from US companies that program these. |
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2012, 06:28:54 AM »
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no. 100% dead wrong.
Then how are people tuning it via Maestro? How does the GIAC software switcher work? Both of those only work through the port. |
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2012, 06:32:07 AM »
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no one here offering help
it always abt money
just want to know what to study and from what college to understand alll the ecus
I studied semiconductors (computer processors) at UNT. It's not all that much help in this sort of thing. |
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n00beosaur
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2012, 06:41:10 AM »
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I'm not sure about 2.5l specifically, but some (not all) MED17 versions require opening the ecu and using TriCore bootloader
What tools would I use for this? MagPro2? there is an alternative though, but i think you might find breaking the 1024bit RSA encryption even more difficult and time consuming
RSA 1024 isn't all that hard to crack. All you have to do is slow the flow of electrons with either a superfluild or by starving the PCB for power. Beyond that it takes collecting data for about a day and 100 computational hours to crack. Thing is, even with my experience doing such things --I'm not doing this on a $2000 PC. I'd be risking the ECU to an $17000 car. And if I screwed up with the L-He or L-N2 VWOA wouldn't have to try very hard to figure out what the Hell I am up to. 2.5l org file might be difficult to find, but you could just ask from US companies that program these.
There are only four companies online who will tune these cars and pretty much everyone else is reselling their tunes. NONE of them are willing to even SELL me a dump. They're on a minor power trip TBH. None of the big boys came out to play on this engine so "while the generals are away..." |
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2012, 01:15:34 PM »
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this thread is obviously going no where.
pull your ecu. look at it. what is it? google it.
buy a tool.
buy a definition.
get winols.
start tuning.
done deal.
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2012, 07:16:02 PM »
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Everyone around here seems to be reselling tunes from guys I'll never meet face to face. I'm not comfortable with mailing my ECU off either. I may eventually have to do this, but I'm not giving up until I've exhausted alternatives. Tuners on the web that I never meet can't just see my AEM show A/F being off and fix it. And then every time I add mods, I'll have to mail the ECU off again. If there were a local guy who could tune this car --I'd be far more keen.
Dude you in Texas? there are plenty of places to get your ecu worked on, UM? Unitronic? also, if you do add mods you do not need retuned, ecu will self adapt. I can tune a gt35r big turbo with minimal logs, i know how the ecu works in and out. I have tuned so many i have a solid setup, that will work, then tweak some timing/fueling if required due to meth or local fuel quality. You pay professionals to tune this for you, they are pro's for a reason, experience. these companies should have similar experience if they wrote the actual file. I suggest talking to United Motorsports, they do good work on the N/A motors, or even his old company C2 Motorsports. |
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2012, 11:31:11 AM »
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I suggest talking to United Motorsports, they do good work on the N/A motors, or even his old company C2 Motorsports.
They all require that I mail them my ECU and wait at least two weeks. That is by far a last resort. No to mention, they are NOT in Texas. UM is on the east coast, C2 in as well. The other company you listed is in Canada. NOT Texas. The local UM and C2 dealers all have told me it's a mail in process. Not to mention there is no way I am believing you don't need to adjust with more mods. Unless these VWs are magic, intake and exhaust mods alter A/F and always will. I can believe that experience makes tuning these cars habitual --even second nature for someone like Jeff Atwood. His tunes can't be adjusted via port tools, so I'd still have to pay every time I needed A/F adjustments. |
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2012, 11:34:00 AM »
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this thread is obviously going no where.
pull your ecu. look at it. what is it? google it.
buy a tool.
buy a definition.
get winols.
start tuning.
done deal.
I already know I have an ME 17.5 --I can easily pull it, but that accomplishes nothing until I know what to buy. To dump my own ECU would require a moneytary investment. I can't get a solid recommendation on which tools are the best bang for my buck and what I'll be spending. I WANT to buy stuff. What do I buy? The definitions for my ECU are available for purchase where? See my dilemma? What do I buy, what do I need to learn apart from what I've learned already, and where do I buy this stuff. That's all I want to know at this point. |
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k0mpresd
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2012, 11:48:33 AM »
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if you want to know what to buy i would look at the manufactures website to see if your ecu type is supported.
you already have 2 that you know of to check out. (alientech and magic).
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Rick
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2012, 11:55:12 AM »
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Not to mention there is no way I am believing you don't need to adjust with more mods. Unless these VWs are magic, intake and exhaust mods alter A/F and always will.
They alter VE not A/F. The ECU has a target AFR that it will stick to very closely. Rick |
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2012, 12:14:15 PM »
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They alter VE not A/F. The ECU has a target AFR that it will stick to very closely.
Rick
Do they have wideband 02 sensors too? |
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2012, 12:35:05 PM »
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What are the part numbers of your ECU?
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Rick
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2012, 01:18:49 PM »
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Do they have wideband 02 sensors too?
Yes, for around 10 years now. Rick |
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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2012, 10:24:33 AM »
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if you want to know what to buy i would look at the manufactures website to see if your ecu type is supported.
you already have 2 that you know of to check out. (alientech and magic).
tool for reading ECU CMD FG TECH K-TAG MAG PRO sw tool for tuning map WINOLS SWIFTEC ECM TITANIUM ( WITH DRIVER MANAGER) |
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