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norris_83
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Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« on: February 10, 2025, 12:41:47 PM »
Hi all,
I know this topic has been posted a dime a dozen, but I haven't found any firm answers as to which would be the best investment.
I currently own a Master Dimsport NewGenius and many other flashers (PCM Flash - Bitbox for other work) but would like to upgrade from the old firmware device NewGenius.
What would you recommend? I am steering towards the Autotuner just because it has some better options that would help me for tuning vehicles (Logging and Dyno mode enable) but Flex seems to offer more in-depth technical work such as virginizing and cloning (Which I never do).
What are your experiences? All feedback I hear about AT is their customer service is the worst. Dimsports is like dealing with remote hobbyists that haven't helped me much in the past with bricked ECUs due to wrong Checksum and no way of recovery.
Does MMS tool stop like the Bflash if subscription isn't paid or is it similar to Dimsport where it will only enable you to have support up to the last update protocol list?
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Re: Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2025, 01:58:15 PM »
Real contenders are imo Flex and bFlash if support is important for you, because you get what you pay for in that department.
When you are paying subscription then you tend to get better support.
Flex has a whole system and a ton of automatic services online which you can use a bunch for free every month. If this is important for you, get the Flex.
If this is not important, bFlash is good at the things it does, but what it does is somewhat limited.
However, it is the only tool that can write patches into ECU's via OBD on all ECU's. So if you want to use e.g. my software for in depth logging and real time tuning, then bFlash is the one to get for sure.
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Re: Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2025, 02:57:53 PM »
Have here Autotuner, Bflash, Kess V3 and flashpro IV ( tool wich is some kind of clone I discovered later)
Bflash: log is really awsome in some case (not so good in others out of not germany brands), do a lot less cars/ECU than others but is really good in whats it does, if you have A2l you can do live tuning, you can patch High speed log
Kess: not in the list, do a buch of old cars/ECU including some "exotic", promissed Log years ago and never came.
Autotuner: Log is good, not as Bflash, but for regular jobs will do. Don´t had much issues, some CKS in a RSQ3, not that every tool has been thru too
My first choice for a job is allways Autotuner, the easy to work... but have to say Bflash reliability is higher
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Re: Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2025, 04:28:29 PM »
Quote from: overspeed on February 10, 2025, 02:57:53 PM
if yuo have A2l you ca do live tuning, you can patch High speed log
Or you can do that with my tool when you don't have A2L
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Re: Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2025, 07:41:52 AM »
Quote from: prj on February 10, 2025, 04:28:29 PM
Or you can do that with my tool when you don't have A2L
Indeed... and is a GREAT tool by the way
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Re: Which Tuning Hardware (Flex - Autotuner - Bflash)
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2025, 10:51:59 AM »
Btw, reason I did not recommend AT is because the vehicle list is +/- similar and he already has New Genius.
I think the OBD patching function of bFlash is > AT.
But of course on bFlash you have to pay subs.
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