Gotcha, man I'm totally lost. It sounds like I need to turn immo back on in the ecu before I can do anything so I guess first things first.  Do I need the ECU flasher for that.  I know it's very frustrating trying to explain something like this to someone that's never done it. I'm very computer capable, just need my hand held a little.   Thanks for all the replies.

So, i followed instructions.  1) I read encrypted via eeprom programmer and saved it.  2) put into new mode and read decrypted but still no info at bottom of screen with login code.  I can read/write to it along with change mileage but no skc,  thoughts?  If i select get access code, it says access code known, cannot write to file.  Is it crazy to try and find an rb4 dump and try it or do you think something is jacked with the cluster itself?