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« on: December 23, 2019, 12:47:17 PM »

Does anyone have any observations on how less blades on the turbine wheel affect EGT?

I recently replaced my 10 blade turbine wheel with a 9 blade of my GTX2971R and I am noticing about a 150C drop in EGT at full boost on 4th,5th and 6th. Cruise and idle seem as before. This seems unreal to me. I am in doubt because what broke my wheel, also broke my thermocouple and I had to install a new one. I actually installed 4 new ones on each cylinder and I think I left them little too short inside the runners (about 5mm-8mm). So in general I don't have the same conditions to compare and seeing this big of a difference in EGT is confusing.

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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2019, 12:42:10 AM »

less blades, less manifold pressure, less egt
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2019, 02:24:53 AM »

less blades, less manifold pressure, less egt

Yes, but does anyone have numbers from experience?
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2021, 06:39:08 PM »

Anyone got more data on this? I fitted a oversize 9 blade K04 turbine on my TFSI and of course going from K03 at any load over stock I’m into BTS and considering drilling my manifold to fit a thermocouple I have
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2021, 12:07:39 PM »

tbh, I feel like k04 makes great power. but it's the power band thats the problem.
shouldn't the turbine housing be the upgrade? not other things?

or am i wrong about how that works
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2021, 03:40:15 AM »

tbh, I feel like k04 makes great power. but it's the power band thats the problem.
shouldn't the turbine housing be the upgrade? not other things?

or am i wrong about how that works

You are correct that for hardware tuning the power band the housing size is best way to adjust, but with the EA113 you have little choice for k04 turbine housings as its part of the manifold, band aid is K16 wheels or clipping, this how most the 'big' names for EA113 turbos do it


I went with a stock inducer, larger exducer compressor as my A4 K03 compressor housing limited inducer size and 7+7 rather than 6+6. Low end surge is claimed to be a issue with stock K04, this was try work around that and found a 9 blade which 5% bigger exducer/inducer turbine to try and match the shaft speed to flow. Honestly for my power goal a standard K04 would have enough but I was machining the cover anyway and had a damaged k04 turbine housings that would needed welded and machined so larger wheel meant no welding just machining.

I still have not found the A/R or CM^2 of the K04-64 turbine housing however
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