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« on: January 29, 2022, 06:29:52 PM »
Hello guys,

Pretty new here in NefMoto - but I already like how you guys spread information and help each others.

I already have a background in engine tuning/mechanical engineering due to my career, but I got a question that I would like your opinion:

For a noob tuner - is it worth to start flashing friend’s car with a Kess clone for learning purposes or it is better to follow directly the open source path?

The question may seem obvious (to follow the opensource directly), but I think I need to refine my tuning knowledges first.

How was your learning curves on tuning? Am I following the right path?

Thanks and sorry for the bad english! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2022, 06:38:23 PM »
log first, as others have said, get a feeling how it all fits together, torque request, boost request, ldr, boost actual, req fuel, actual fuel, lambda control, timing, retard etc.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2022, 06:17:41 AM »
If Kess hangs on you and you brick the ecu, your friend will kill you. Prepare for that moment and be ready to unwind the clock.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2022, 08:09:03 AM »
You are right.

To solve it (if this happens), I should get a Galetto/MPPS or a KTAG to make possible to recover it in bench using bootmode. Right?
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2022, 08:11:04 AM »
Quote from: nyet on January 29, 2022, 06:38:23 PM
log first, as others have said, get a feeling how it all fits together, torque request, boost request, ldr, boost actual, req fuel, actual fuel, lambda control, timing, retard etc.

That is a good start.

Is the s4wiki tuning guide applicable to most cars with ME7.x.x?
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2022, 01:08:02 PM »
Quote from: giowz0rd on January 30, 2022, 08:11:04 AM
That is a good start.

Is the s4wiki tuning guide applicable to most cars with ME7.x.x?

Yes
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2022, 03:48:17 PM »
Quote from: Blazius on January 30, 2022, 01:08:02 PM
Yes

Great!

I will start my forum excavation. I’ll be here in the Noob Section more times, expect to see me hahahaha

Thanks for everyone that answered kindly.

Let’s go!!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2022, 06:35:52 AM »
Quote from: giowz0rd on January 30, 2022, 08:09:03 AM
You are right.

To solve it (if this happens), I should get a Galetto/MPPS or a KTAG to make possible to recover it in bench using bootmode. Right?

I use clones of galletto and mpps. Kess I also have but being a clone can't do bootmode without mods. I also have a blue ft232 cable for copying the eeprom, which is the first  thing you need to do. You may wanna do the dsg one day and for that I have no idea of what cheap crap to get. Kess once again can do it but not without modding the board on the clone.
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