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eurowabbit
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« on: July 09, 2023, 10:30:41 PM »
04 jetta gli 1.8t with o2m. put a dq250 dsg in and need to recode ecu to auto to get ecu to see trans.

vcds auto scan if it helps...

Sunday,09,July,2023,21:06:37:04799
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 arm64(arm64 CPU)
VCDS Version: 23.3.1.0 (arm64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4631.4
Data version: 20230421 DS346.2
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VIN: 3VWSE69M54M146168   License Plate:



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                Address 01: Engine  (06A 906 032 RN)

21:06:26 Group 125: CAN-Databus Communication (Powertrain)
     Transmission
  ABS 1  Brake Electronics
  Instruments 1  Instrument Cluster
            A/C Electronics

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                Address 02: Auto Trans  (02E 300 051 C)

21:07:06 Group 125: CAN-Databus Communication (Powertrain)
  Engine 1  Engine
  ABS 1  Brake Electronics
  Instruments 1  Instrument Cluster
  Sel.Lev. 1  Selector Lever

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                Address 03: ABS Brakes  (1C0 907 379 M)

21:07:35 Group 125: CAN-Databus Communication (Powertrain)
  Engine 1  Engine
  Steer. ang. 1  Steering Angle
       
     Transmission

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                Address 17: Instruments  (1J5 920 926 H)

21:08:05 Group 125: CAN-Databus Communication (Powertrain)
  Engine 1  Engine
  Transm. 1  Transmission
  ABS 1  Brake Electronics (J104)
  N/A   

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                Address 19: CAN Gateway  (6N0 909 901 )

21:08:33 Group 125: CAN-Databus Powertrain (Communication)
  Engine 1  Engine Electronics
  Transm. 1  Transmission Electronics
  ABS 1  Brake Electronics (J104)
  N/A  Instrument Cluster (J285)

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Chassis Type: 9M (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 3VWSE69M54M146168   Mileage: 351980km-218710miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AWP.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 RN
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001 
   Coding: 07510
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: FBB6AA5BEBF75F4B1E-5160
   VINID: 0E69E354625D14474110604620B7E96F95
   3VWSE69M54M146168     VWZ7Z0D0008701

1 Fault Found:
18020 - Engine Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            P1612 - 35-00 -
Readiness: 0110 1100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 051 C    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1816 
   Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000805290655
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 9366E2FBB367B70BE6-5118

3 Faults Found:
18097 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1689 - 000 - Implausible Message from Elect. Load Controller
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

18261 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1853 - 000 - Implausible Message from ABS Controller
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

18288 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1880 - 000 - Missing Message from Diagnostic Gateway
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Coding: 0019970
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: B4244167D62950339F-5184

1 Fault Found:
18020 - Engine Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            P1612 - 000 -

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003 
   Coding: 12340
   Shop #: WSC 00066 
   VCID: A71EA62B47FF2BAB2A-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
   Component: Lenkradelektronik   0005 
   Coding: 00118
   Shop #: WSC 00028 
   VCID: AF2E4E0B6F0F73EBE2-5160

1 Fault Found:
01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J5 920 926 H
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V56 
   Coding: 05200
   Shop #: WSC 26105 
   VCID: B4244167862950339F-513C
   3VWSE69M54M146168     VWZ7Z0D0008701

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 
   VCID: F0AC8D77B2B12C13BB-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO  003 
   Coding: 00259
   Shop #: WSC 00066 
   VCID: B73E766B975FBB2BBA-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202 

1 Fault Found:
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent

End-----(Elapsed Time: 05:00, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/0.0V. VIgn 0.0V)------
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2023, 12:04:01 AM »
You need to reflash the ecu, its auto only or manual only software versions. So you can not just recode manual to auto, you need to reflash the ecu with a auto 5 speed file and to work semi proper it needs to software tweeks like vss from abs at the minimum. The 06A906032HF version is normally a good file to start with, its from a 2002 awp auto 5 speed 
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2023, 01:37:22 AM »
Quote from: _nameless on July 10, 2023, 12:04:01 AM
You need to reflash the ecu, its auto only or manual only software versions. So you can not just recode manual to auto, you need to reflash the ecu with a auto 5 speed file and to work semi proper it needs to software tweeks like vss from abs at the minimum. The 06A906032HF version is normally a good file to start with, its from a 2002 awp auto 5 speed  
That's what I figured... thing is the 1.8t I have in the car isn't stock... ecu has a tune from malone tuning on it. Would I need them to redo the tune for the new software?

Also with the print out above. First section. Abs doesn't even see the trans. Is there a way to fix that?
Also can I drive the car with the current issues? Atleast for a week or two while I fix the issues.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2023, 01:41:04 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2023, 02:08:50 AM »
After flashing to HF, recode ecu to 07550

Ofc you lost your tune after reflashing to another sw
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2023, 08:09:56 AM »
Quote from: fknbrkn on July 10, 2023, 02:08:50 AM
After flashing to HF, recode ecu to 07550

Ofc you lost your tune after reflashing to another sw
will the tune still work with the trans coding changed or will it need to be adjusted? bascially after reflashing auto can i just reload current tune and be good?
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2023, 11:14:28 AM »
Quote from: eurowabbit on July 10, 2023, 08:09:56 AM
will the tune still work with the trans coding changed or will it need to be adjusted? bascially after reflashing auto can i just reload current tune and be good?
A manual ecu can not be coded to auto. You need to make the manual ecu a auto ecu, you do this by reflashing the ecu to auto using the appropriate software version. After the ecu is flashed to auto then the eeprom will accept soft coding for auto 5 speed. The tune you have now is no longer any use to you, it will not work with the dsg trans at all in any way, it does not have the logic for communicating with a transmission controller. If you really want the tune you can port the calibrations form your original file into the auto. However, seeing the questions that you are asking and the lack of understanding this will not  be an easy task for you.  
If you are looking for a ready to flash solution for a dsg conversion you can download it from here https://instatune.sellfy.store/p/2001-2005-aww-awp-18t-dsg-conversion-file/
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2023, 04:52:56 PM »
Quote from: _nameless on July 10, 2023, 11:14:28 AM
A manual ecu can not be coded to auto. You need to make the manual ecu a auto ecu, you do this by reflashing the ecu to auto using the appropriate software version. After the ecu is flashed to auto then the eeprom will accept soft coding for auto 5 speed. The tune you have now is no longer any use to you, it will not work with the dsg trans at all in any way, it does not have the logic for communicating with a transmission controller. If you really want the tune you can port the calibrations form your original file into the auto. However, seeing the questions that you are asking and the lack of understanding this will not  be an easy task for you.  
If you are looking for a ready to flash solution for a dsg conversion you can download it from here https://instatune.sellfy.store/p/2001-2005-aww-awp-18t-dsg-conversion-file/
that webpage is PERFECT. now i just need to decide what i want to do with my malone tuning tune...
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