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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2023, 08:36:45 AM »

WTF are you talking about? Not one of these assertions is even remotely true. I'm not sure if you feel threatened about folks sharing information with each other and it affecting your livelihood or if you're just a dick, maybe both? As far as using a commercial tool(s) and studying them, OF COURSE I'm going to do that. I already own them and why wouldn't I glean info if available? You'd have to be at least mildly retarded not to. That is LITERALLY the definition of reverse engineering. I'd venture to guess you've probably done the same as well before you decided to hoard and sell the info. Also, I have no need to "get cool with friends" ... maybe that's your bag? Maybe just projecting a bit?  Really trying to understand your hostility here.

Reverse engineering means smashing balls with ida for weeks/months, what you are doing is fishing infos to have an easy job done, typical approach of today dickyhead kids, better ask mama to solve problems.
I don't remember to have asked anyone for hints, aid just takes away to pleasure of discovering.
I've an ethic which differs from yours, i dont' give a fuck if some big company sw engineer made bugged code, i respect people that spend time in finding bugs to exploit, i disrespect scriptkiddies.

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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2023, 09:39:56 AM »

Reverse engineering is if you take the ECU and find your way in without copying what someone else did before you.
Calling sniffing a commercial tool and replicating the behaviour "reverse engineering" is an insult to those of us who actually do it and make the solutions that others copy.
The correct term is "stealing IP".

First of all prj, thank you for what helpful info you did choose to provide to me ... even if it was in a bit of a dick-ish manner initially. I think part of the problem is that there's a bit of bias and assumptions about what my intent is with whatever information I end up with. I understand many of you that have developed solutions only to find them being stolen and sold on Aliexpress. Facts are, the tools I'm using are most likely clones of clone of clones. I'm feeling confident that not all of these tools found some unique vulnerability and exploited it. But bashing me for trying to leverage existing work and expedite my time to solution is misguided. I'm simply trying to learn from others that have done this before me like "standing on the shoulders of giants". This isn't a go and plagiarize someone else's work and then go sell or distribute it as my own sort of thing like I'm being accused of. Would I love for there to be an open source solution like others (bri3d) have chosen to do, sure. But what someone does with their own work is their choice. It is not my intent to take anything and go publish or profit from it. I have 2 tools that do different things with some overlap, but neither of them do exactly what I want. I'm kind of just trying to combine the hammer and screwdriver into a single tool for my own selfish needs.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2023, 09:49:38 AM »

Reverse engineering means smashing balls with ida for weeks/months, what you are doing is fishing infos to have an easy job done, typical approach of today dickyhead kids, better ask mama to solve problems.
I don't remember to have asked anyone for hints, aid just takes away to pleasure of discovering.
I've an ethic which differs from yours, i dont' give a fuck if some big company sw engineer made bugged code, i respect people that spend time in finding bugs to exploit, i disrespect scriptkiddies.



Geremia - I'm not even sure why you are in this thread. You're offering no help at all other than entertaining me like Grampa Simpson. You keep referring to kids and script kiddies like a grumpy curmudgeon. I'm probably older than you are in reality. If you are just here to dick ride prj, you can start your own thread. This isn't about you and I could care less what you approve of, find pleasure in or if you enjoy smashing your balls.  Just move along, ignore and go on about your day.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2023, 10:01:18 AM »

Sure, will do, happy fishing
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