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« on: February 14, 2024, 05:46:59 AM »

hi ive been looking for xdf or damos file for a very long time. idk what im doing wrong, everyone i ask i get vague responses about "there out there ,got to look" or its similar to "XYZ" , usually the aeb, but never provide me with a link. Can someone provide a clear ink to a file, or a datatabase  or even some site i can buy it from. Is there sometiong im not understanding about all this ? Am i missing a secret code word? Secret handshake?  
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2024, 11:38:51 AM »

Donno if theres a M5.9.2

But it should be almost the same as M3.8.3
-M3.8.1, M3.8.2 and M3.8.3 is out there.

Not at the PC, so can’t help, but they have been posted here and on ECUConnections many times (:
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2024, 07:21:21 PM »

hi ive been looking for xdf or damos file for a very long time. idk what im doing wrong, everyone i ask i get vague responses about "there out there ,got to look" or its similar to "XYZ" , usually the aeb, but never provide me with a link. Can someone provide a clear ink to a file, or a datatabase  or even some site i can buy it from. Is there sometiong im not understanding about all this ? Am i missing a secret code word? Secret handshake?  

Understand that the documentation originates from Bosch and has been leaked intermittently, resulting in an incomplete dataset. Users rely on the available documentation and often create and share their own definitions. If your software version isn't available, you have three options:

Utilize a similar software version with comparable engine and ECU logic to identify the necessary maps for tuning.
Locate a compatible, defined software version and perform a cross-flash.
Opt for a paid solution. While occasional assistance may be offered, typically, users must conduct their own research or hire assistance.
Notably, modifying the Beetle ECU is uncommon, with no publicly available AEG definitions. I've developed a comprehensive map pack by referencing the M3.8.1 VR6 DAMOS and incorporating elements from the turbo M3.8.3 / M5.9.2 1.8T definitions.
If you post your file and ask for specific maps you need Im sure you would get some assistance. I can definitely tell you that no matter how hard you look, you wont find anything for that. Matter of fact the only obd2 AAA and ABA damos available are the ones that I have made and shared. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2024, 06:14:15 AM »

yes ive come finally to this conclussion also theres almost nothing out there for aeg, and the little that there is is shrouded in cryptic mystery or gatekeeping. when i started this build a few years ago, there was alot more info outhere. I ran and still run a aeb 5.9.2 wich is why i choose the aeg in the firstplace. something changed with the internet since 2019 and all those great walkthrews for begginers and deffinition files for aeb 3.8.x and 5.9.2 are all gone or unsearchable. I cant even find info on how to simply flash one of these ecus , i get partial info good enough like "power to pin 43" .  im am looking or was , for noob level info. stuff i can read and learn. i clearly wasting my time, going to get standalone i think as the community has some sort of restriction on it that i don't understand how to get around. example on ecuconnetions i dont have permission to to "view attached files" and i cant figure out how to get this permission.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2024, 03:22:42 PM »

yes ive come finally to this conclussion also theres almost nothing out there for aeg, and the little that there is is shrouded in cryptic mystery or gatekeeping. when i started this build a few years ago, there was alot more info outhere. I ran and still run a aeb 5.9.2 wich is why i choose the aeg in the firstplace. something changed with the internet since 2019 and all those great walkthrews for begginers and deffinition files for aeb 3.8.x and 5.9.2 are all gone or unsearchable. I cant even find info on how to simply flash one of these ecus , i get partial info good enough like "power to pin 43" .  im am looking or was , for noob level info. stuff i can read and learn. i clearly wasting my time, going to get standalone i think as the community has some sort of restriction on it that i don't understand how to get around. example on ecuconnetions i dont have permission to to "view attached files" and i cant figure out how to get this permission.
I'm not trying to be rude, the fact of the matter not too much information publicly exists, any development done was from someone spending hours if not days making a suitable definition and testing in car. Do you really expect someone to hand it over for free? The ONLY aba and aaa obd2 definitions that exist are ones that Ive posted, and again NOTHING public exist for them before that. Also, none of the definitions or walkthroughs are missing, they are all still there, and if you can not download any files from ecu connections odds are you do not have enough posts. Also, you need to be a exceptional member to download files from specific portions of that form. The way you get that status is by helping other members and actually contributing to the forum.

As far as flashing these ecus its simple, google m5.9.2 mpps pinout and you will easily find the pinout to flash it on the bench. It's been covered here a handful of times, if you need to search for a specific topic, use google to search the topic and type "nefmoto" after and you will find more results from the forum. Switching off the immo requires reading out the eeprom with some kind of chip burner, you may be able to use a clamp or probes to read it out too, but I personally just hot air them. If you find an original from a 98-99 manual beetle they do not have immo and will start without touching the eeprom. Emissions can be switched off with codewords, however readiness will still show incomplete, additional mods need to be made to set readiness. Fueling calibration is the same as any other m3.8.3 / m5.9.2 its been covered several times.

If you are planning on swapping the  management why not just go with me7? I mean besides swapping the throttle and throttle pedal its the same amount of effort as swapping m5.9.2, and you can use the the ignition coil from the  avh/ azg / bev / bbw. The me7.5 comes with a factory wideband ecu, and has boost based software versions. Ive actually swapped a subaru to run a 1.8t ecu, it would be a lot easier on a lot of levels.

Lastly I just want to add, the amount of people that can actually custom tune a m5.9.2 setup in the states is about 5 or less, most just flash files others have made. If you have any specific questions like map locations I can help you with that. Per the forum rules its required to post the original file when asking for definition files. Its kinda hard to help you if you can not provide the bare minimum on your end...
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2024, 08:13:41 PM »

as usual thanks for the replies, the project was putt on hold as a friend rhat was helping me build the car got leukemia and is dying. anyways back on it now so..... heres what i need for that file 06a906018ab: i have 2 cars on this setup

-im running a 16v head so at least a 7500 redline or none at all
-ive what i can tell from logs with vcds more aggressive timing after 4000 if possible
- sai delete rear o2 delete evap delete if possible no really nessary though no emmissions where i live in canada but ltft would be nice
second car add to above
- a base idle of 1000-1100 rpm to accommodate 276 cams
-12.5:1 compression whatever tuning that needs
-maybe 93 octane the max available here

i have mpps cable from aliexpress never used it yet
vcds cable been using that for years
windows pc
a link to how to flash would be nice
il pay if necessary but i want learn for the future incase i need to do it myself again. these cars are for life so there not going anywhere


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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2024, 08:04:45 AM »

so im back on this project , i acquired a neuspeed tuned aeg ecu wich should do what i need. now i need to immo delete that. Any tutorials out there? i know its a 24c02 eeprom , theres editors outthere, there even sites that guys will edit it for you wich id grat, but so far no luck finding what program to use to read and write and how to do it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2024, 09:35:58 AM »

If you read what I posted back in April, you would have your answer on what is involved in reading and writing the eeprom Wink
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