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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2012, 02:52:11 AM »

You probably have aftermarket software installed.
Flash to stock.
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« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2012, 03:36:57 AM »

I have had this car ~ one year. What car feels like and last owners said it has no aftermarket software on it. What I have been logging with vag-com, highest maf what I have seen is ~130kg/s at full throttle. But it can be some expired trial tho.
Ok, I need to upload the original file from original section and try to flash it to the ECU.
Is it 800BB layout in my ECU since I have not yet opened it.
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« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2012, 04:15:14 AM »

Before you flash and potentially brick your ECU make sure you have a backup plan. I strongly recommend a MPPS cable so you can recover the ECU if needed.
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« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2012, 11:39:18 AM »

OK, thanks for the advice! How about if I brick my ECU with flash and I have another same chip, can I desolder bricked chip out of my ECU and solde a new one with original .bin file? Does it work that way...just wondering.
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« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »

Not so fast !

If the ECU has a encrypt borad you can read it normally, but when you try to write it will stop in any point and brick the ECU.

I had an 2001 S3 Yesterday like this, open the ECU and there was the board, desolded the flash and resoldered again, tryed bootmode with Galetto and MPPS  and could read, but not write anithing.

I finally desoldered again, programed externally and resoldered and job done.
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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2012, 06:02:25 PM »

OK, thanks for the advice! How about if I brick my ECU with flash and I have another same chip, can I desolder bricked chip out of my ECU and solde a new one with original .bin file? Does it work that way...just wondering.

If you have the tools to do so, sure, it will work if the software is exactly the same.
But boot mode is much easier...
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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2013, 01:58:36 PM »

I'm able to connect, and then read a little information, but I can't get much farther than this. I see .bin files posted by a few people, but I'm not sure if they've been able to do it through OBDII or if they're pulling their chips on this particular platform. It would be nice, as my intent is to decipher the SKC code.

Using Nefmoto 1.9.3.2

ECU hard 0261207939
ECU soft 1037366446
ECU Part 8E0909018A

16/Jan/2013 02:23:18.403: USER: Connected
16/Jan/2013 02:23:20.957: LOG: Sent message with service ID TesterPresent
16/Jan/2013 02:23:20.997: LOG: Received message with service ID: TesterPresentPositiveReponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:23.490: LOG: Sent message with service ID TesterPresent
16/Jan/2013 02:23:23.531: LOG: Received message with service ID: TesterPresentPositiveReponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.864: USER: Disabling Windows sleep mode.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.874: USER: Reading all ECU info.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.914: LOG: Reading ECU identification option: 0x9C
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.944: LOG: Sent message with service ID ReadECUIdentification
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: LOG: Received message with service ID: ReadECUIdentificationPositiveResponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: LOG: Read ECU identification option: 0x9C
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: LOG: Successfully read ECU identification information
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: USER: ECU reports programming session preconditions have been met.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: USER: Negotiating communication timings.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:25.984: LOG: Reading current communication timings.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.054: LOG: Sent message with service ID AccessTimingParameters
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.104: LOG: Received message with service ID: AccessTimingParametersPositiveResponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.104: LOG: Set timing parameters to new values.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.104: LOG: Setting communication timing to defaults.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.164: LOG: Sent message with service ID AccessTimingParameters
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.204: LOG: Received message with service ID: AccessTimingParametersPositiveResponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.204: LOG: Reading current communication timings.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.284: LOG: Sent message with service ID AccessTimingParameters
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.335: LOG: Received message with service ID: AccessTimingParametersPositiveResponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.335: USER: Successfully changed to new communication timings.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.335: LOG: Starting ProgrammingSession diagnostic session with 124800 baud rate.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.335: USER: Starting diagnostic session.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.365: LOG: Sent message with service ID StartDiagnosticSession
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.405: LOG: Received message with service ID: NegativeResponse
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.415: LOG: Received negative response for service ID: StartDiagnosticSession, with response code: SecurityAccessDenied_SecurityAccessRequested
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.415: USER: Start diagnostic session failed, ECU reports security access is required.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.425: USER: Reading all ECU info failed.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.425: USER: 100% complete.
16/Jan/2013 02:23:26.435: USER: Restoring Windows sleep mode.
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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2013, 02:06:07 PM »

The skc isn't stored in the main flash. It's in the eeprom (95040). Use argdubs tool to read it.
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2013, 02:11:02 PM »

The skc isn't stored in the main flash. It's in the eeprom (95040). Use argdubs tool to read it.

Thanks for replying so fast ddillenger, I'll give it a try now.
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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2013, 05:01:57 PM »

getting farther with the Nefmoto read, I just need to pick a memory layout, but I don't see a corresponding one to my ECU. Has anyone been able to successfully read through OBD connection on North American 2003 Audi A4's?

Still can't get ArgDub to work on this, application returns error:
"Initiating communication ... FAIL. (error=0x01)"
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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2013, 05:39:46 PM »

800bb, obd reading shouldn't be an issue as long as the ecu is installed in the car with a matching immobilizer.
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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2013, 06:02:53 PM »

I have read my 2003 A4 using nefmoto just fine, I pulled a BIN but not sure if what i have is correct or not. If someone wants to take a look i can post it. I got the security error as well and had to change this option to bypass it.

There are 2 check boxes, I dont recall what i did, but whatever yours is at, do the opposite.

under the KWP2000 Settings
last 2 check boxes
Security Use Extended Seed Request mine is checked
Security Support Special Key mine is checked.

as for memory map I used ME7 29F800BB.MemoryLayout.xml


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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2013, 06:27:51 PM »

thanks guys, I was able to get it working with a suggestion I received from "jimmcgee5" to drop the baud rate down after connection and that worked.

http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=3069.0title=
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