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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2014, 01:48:12 PM »

I agree with you, the k-line has to be fixed. But my friend is wondering if he sells the car for parts or if he tries to fix it. But if the doesn't start, he won't want to fix it ...

If it was my car, I would have tried to find the k-line problem for sure ...

The problem with adapting the ecu to the car, is that I have to get the SKC in order to do so ... Since the cluster seems to have problems too, I don't think I can ...

We'll see how it goes ...
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2014, 09:07:27 AM »

Hello, I'm back with some news ...

I took out the radio, and the k-line came back but I still couldn't diagnose the ECU ...

My friend has another audi A3 TDI PD100, and we took the tdi cluster to put it in the 1.8T. It worked like a charm. I was able to diagnose the ECU, cluster immo ...

I wanted to adapt the ECU to the TDI cluster (I used vag commander to get the PIN from this one), but I can't since I don't have the SKC from the 1.8T ECU nor from the cluster ...

When I put back the original cluster, it goes crazy, it seems I can diagnose it sometimes, but the connection fails immediately ...

The only option left is to immo off the ECU right ? Or do you see something else ?

Thank you guys !!!
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2014, 12:11:53 PM »

It's me again !!!

I know I have a lot of questions ...

If we wanted to swap the ECU, could you tell me if there are others that are compatible (plug and play) ? It's a real pain to find the exact one, since there are so many versions ...

Thank you Wink
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2014, 12:34:22 PM »

Friend you have many troubles. My advice is try to test ECU and Cluster on bench to isolate the problem. You need to know if you have really a wiring trouble or any module (ECU, Cluster, ABS, CCM, etc....) is going bad.

To clone you ecu you need to copy flash & serial eeprom dumps to a new one. Basically any M383 or M592 1.8T ECU can do the trick.
If you want to be more specific to car use any of these:

Audi A3 8L 1.8T AGU ECUs
06A906018AQ - 0 261 204 678 - Bosch M3.8.3 - 1037"358108"58 - With CAN Chip
06A906018AR - 0 261 204 679 - Bosch M3.8.3 - With CAN Chip
06A906018CJ - 0 261 206 516 - Bosch M3.8.3 - With CAN Chip
06A906018CK - 0 261 206 515 - Bosch M3.8.3 - With CAN Chip

Golf MKIV 1J 1.8T AGU ECUs
06A906018BB - 0 261 204 800 - With CAN Chip
06A906018CG- 0 261 206 518 - Bosch M3.8.3 - 1037"352127"57 - OBDII not CAN - 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HSD02 - engine control unit for models without cruise control system AGU - German made 2002 VW Golf GTI 5 doors 1.8T AGU engine EGY 5spd manual tranny - With CAN Chip
06A906018CH - 0 261 206 571 - Bosch M3.8.3 - OBDII not CAN - engine control unit for models with cruise control system AGU - British 1999 VW Golf GTI 5 doors 1.8T AGU engine 5spd manual tranny - With CAN Chip

Skoda Octavia 1U 1.8T AGU ECUs
06A906018CF
06A906018DM
06A906018GB
06A906018GA - 0 261 206 519 - Bosch M3.8.3 - With CAN Chip
06A906018GD
06A906018DC

Also I think that any of this M592 ECUs can be cloned, but I not sure I have not test it. I suppose it due to my test and info I have.
Audi A4 B5 1.8T AEB 1996-1999 non drive-by-wire 1.8T
8D0907557M - 0 261 204 179 - Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable
8D0907557N - 0 261 204 179 / 0 261 204 178- Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable
8D0907557P - 0 261 204 258 / 0 261 204 581 - Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable - USA
8D0907558M - 0 261 204 179 - Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable
8D0907559  - 0 261 204 963 - Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable - With CAN Chip - nDBW Throttle Body
8D0907559C - 0 261 206 315 - Bosch M5.9.2 - OBDII Programable - USA - With CAN Chip - nDBW Throttle Body
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2014, 12:39:26 PM »

Hello guys.

I finally received my programmer ... I desoldered the chip and read it.

Here is the dump.

Do you think I could flash it the version eliotroyano gave me ?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/geiy3bl3eyux8o2/Skoda_Audi_VW_M383_IMMO_OFF.bin

I'm asking because it doesn't seem to be the same ...

Thank you guys Wink
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2014, 01:03:59 PM »

Here is my attempt to immof.

Could someone check please ?

Thank you guys Wink

PS : how do you clear the dtc ?
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2014, 01:04:45 PM »

PS 2 : where can I find the SKC in the immo dump ?
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 01:06:17 PM »

Hello guys.
I finally received my programmer ... I desoldered the chip and read it.
Here is the dump.
Do you think I could flash it the version eliotroyano gave me ?
http://www.mediafire.com/download/geiy3bl3eyux8o2/Skoda_Audi_VW_M383_IMMO_OFF.bin
I'm asking because it doesn't seem to be the same ...
Thank you guys Wink

I have tested that generic file with some sucess. Any other case you can test your ori 06A906018CK immo off version.

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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 01:09:27 PM »

PS : how do you clear the dtc ?

In the past I know how to do it, but I don't remember. I need to check my notes. I remember something like force "FF" somewhere in the last line of the dump.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 04:19:55 PM »

Hello and thanks for the quick answer !!!

I trust you when you say your file is ok, but I'm just asking about compatibility with mine ... Since the ecu doesn't have the same part number and the dupm seems different ... I know I'm lazy, but I don't want to try anything that won't work because I'll have to solder take back to the car (15 minutes ride), test, if it doesn't work, back home, desolder, reflash, resolder ...

I'll trust your file more than mine, you said it works. Because the chip has already been desoldered and replaced on the ecu, so I'm not sure about the integrity of the file ... But my concern is more, is ir compatible with my ecu ?

What about the skc ? Do you know where to find it ?

The immo off on my car is done properly ? Checksum too ? Because on the word file it said no checksum, if I find A0 at 0x6 or 0x7, but in the pictures it was different ...

Thanks Wink
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2014, 06:12:24 PM »

Hello and thanks for the quick answer !!!
I trust you when you say your file is ok, but I'm just asking about compatibility with mine ... Since the ecu doesn't have the same part number and the dupm seems different ... I know I'm lazy, but I don't want to try anything that won't work because I'll have to solder take back to the car (15 minutes ride), test, if it doesn't work, back home, desolder, reflash, resolder ...
I'll trust your file more than mine, you said it works. Because the chip has already been desoldered and replaced on the ecu, so I'm not sure about the integrity of the file ... But my concern is more, is ir compatible with my ecu ?
What about the skc ? Do you know where to find it ?
The immo off on my car is done properly ? Checksum too ? Because on the word file it said no checksum, if I find A0 at 0x6 or 0x7, but in the pictures it was different ...
Thanks Wink

Friend I understand your concern. Your 06A906018CK Immo OFF file and mine are equal, it will work. The generic one is some kind of virgin one in case that you don't have the dump. Just use the Immo OFF file you will be OK.
About the SKC I think that most of the M383 & M592 ECUs are Immo II, so no PIN Code is needed for new ECU adaptation. You can follow Ross-Tech Immo II ECU swap procedure --> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/immobilizer2.html.
In my case ECU (M383) is Immo II and cluster is Immo III.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 03:56:58 AM »

Ok, thank you. I'll try and report ...
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2014, 06:28:38 AM »

Hello guys !!!

I tried mine today and it worked !!!

As for the SKC, I don't need it to adapt anything, I just wanted to know where to find for educational purposes ...

THANK YOU !!!
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