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« on: August 03, 2016, 02:16:25 PM »

Hi, need some help regarding the Motronic 2.7 system on a '94 Ferrari Mondial T.

The vehicle is fitted with an exhaust temperature sensor. Ferrari part number 142581.

One of the wires goes to the engine ECU.

My question is; what does this actually do to the ECU? Does it change the timing? Does it do anything? Is this connection needed?

I've included the wiring diagram and key. The exhaust temp module connects to the Motronic ECU on pin 52
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 03:23:36 PM »

You'll need to check the code.   Do you have a ecu read?   I'd love a look.   High EGT generally adds fuel and reduces load though.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 11:48:25 PM »

We don't have diagnostics for this ECU. I haven't checked the flash codes as the fault light is off.

This is a V8, and has one Motronic system per bank. It has catalyst with before and after lambda sensors.



The exhaust gas temperature sensors are separate from the ECU. The instrument panel has 2 warning lights per bank. 1x engine warning light, and 1x exhaust temp warning light.



The exhaust temp warning light for bank 1 is always on. I've swapped the two units over, and the fault moves sides, meaning the control module is at fault.

Now my dilemma; this control module with part number 142581 is no longer available. We can still get the older module with part number 141037, but this has 3 wires rather than 6. This was fitted to the older Motronic 2.5 systems. As far as I know this just put the light on the dash, and that was it. I'm wondering if I can just retrofit the older one?

I've included the wiring diagram for the Motronic 2.5 system
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 06:52:46 AM »

We don't have diagnostics for this ECU. I haven't checked the flash codes as the fault light is off.

Is it not possible to have a stored fault without the fault light being illuminated? It is on pretty much any newer system with fault code capability. Do you have a way to check for faults?
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 11:53:41 AM »

It's not that easy unfortunately. The ECU has a 3 pin connector for diagnostics. I've managed to pull a code from one of the ECUs, of 1444. I can't find any info on flash codes for this model, but I think it means no faults found.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 06:23:12 PM »

binary might help
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http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5525.msg52371#msg52371


Starting Rev's http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=5397.msg51169#msg51169

noobs read this before asking http://nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=9014.0title=


ORGORIGINAL 05 5120 creator for Volvo
ORIGINAL Datalogger (Freeware) Author
ORGINAL finder of the 'extra' torque' limits
I don't have ME7.01 A2L I just use ID
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 10:49:28 PM »

binary might help

Can you expand on this?
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