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« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2011, 10:56:03 AM »
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thanks Rob, having a hard time with the RPM axis for this map and I am not 100% sure about the load axis either.
You have loaded text and 3d, from looking at it, your load looks ok, but rpm looks "f"ed. I'll have to look at it in a hex editor to see what I come up with. Will do after work- 5:00ish (sure would be nice to have WinOLS on the smart phone, lol). Maybe someone sitting with a pc can help you faster. |
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« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2011, 08:11:22 PM »
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Here you go; later then expected, but...  It looks like both of your axis were "f"ed, I think your load you started at 16C08, instead 16COA. You were very close! For Y though, which is much harder to find, you were way off. No big deal, I'm happy to help. Believe me, I'm not great at it, but getting better. |
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« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2011, 12:37:47 AM »
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Thanks Rob, I am slowly getting a hang of this too thanks too the help of you guys! Hopefully I will be able too contribute back to this forum soon.
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« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2011, 02:35:05 AM »
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After modifying that table no more MAF mil
Perfect. Good luck with the torque map. It might take a few testruns, but I'm sure that you will get the car running properly soon. |
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« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2011, 01:56:57 AM »
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OK KFMIOP, thanks Rob
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« Reply #65 on: December 30, 2011, 04:25:55 AM »
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looking a little closer at KFMIOP I dont understand why the load axis doesnt correspond too my stock KFMIRL which had a max load of 191, ie KFMIOP load starts at 10 and ends at 145 is that correct?
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« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2011, 02:38:01 PM »
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looking a little closer at KFMIOP I dont understand why the load axis doesnt correspond too my stock KFMIRL which had a max load of 191, ie KFMIOP load starts at 10 and ends at 145 is that correct?
I'm sure it's correct. A load value of 191 in stock KFMIOP isn't really necessary if your stock LDRXN limits the output way earlier than that. Your KFMIRL might have load values that are never used in real life as they are limited by LDRXN (for instance) and I'm sure that your stock LDRXN isn't no way near the 145 you are referring to in your stock KFMIOP? It happens that 150hp engines and 180hp engines share the same KFMIRL and the difference in output power is being taken care of by different LDRXN (among other things) although KFMIRL can actually tbe he same. If you need to rescale KFMIOP when running higher loads, just do so to avoid having the same settings for "anything" above 145. The axis is editable as well and it might come in handy now that you are turning up the boost. Keep in mind that all the maps in your stock file are more or less made for "stock purposes" and I'm sure that the VAG tech's didn't concider someone wanting to runt 1.3 bars of boost instead of the 0.45 bars you have stock. That's why some maps needs adjusting once you start to tune, and not only the map values but the axis ranges as well.  |
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« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2011, 02:22:40 AM »
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thanks again fredrik, now too figure out how too edit the axis in tunerpro.
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« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2011, 02:47:11 AM »
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To edit the axis, I defined a new table in tunerpro called KFMIOP - load axis, I used the same starting address for the data and the columns. Is that right? Now too scale the axis for this correctly would I need to ensure that the highest load level in that axis should be the highest load level I have in IRL?
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« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2011, 03:01:01 AM »
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this is the modified axis, comments?
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« Reply #70 on: December 31, 2011, 04:38:24 AM »
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loaded the file up with the modified IOP axis and car feels worse. Forgot too test part throttle surging etc but WOT in 2nd the TM light started flashing on the dash (no fault in vcds).
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« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2011, 04:39:52 AM »
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thanks again fredrik, now too figure out how too edit the axis in tunerpro.
I've never used Tunerpro to be honest, I do everything in WinOLS and a HEX-editor actually so I can't help you with this. In WinOLS, it's quite straight forward to change the axis values as they are 1D and you can basically change the data as you please. If you have mapped the axis data correctly to your corresponding map, you will see the changes in the map right away. |
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« Reply #72 on: December 31, 2011, 04:43:32 AM »
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yes the changes I made too the axis reflected in IOP immediately so I was confident that it was at least one way of doing it  , now too figure out how too tune IOP correctly because just changing the axis has made the car feel worse. |
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« Reply #73 on: December 31, 2011, 04:45:11 AM »
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loaded the file up with the modified IOP axis and car feels worse. Well... As far as I can tell, in KFMIOP you have about 69 for 4krpm and 213, and your KFMIRL says about 99 for 4krpm and 219. You migh want to align a bite more... |
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« Reply #74 on: December 31, 2011, 04:47:17 AM »
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loaded the file up with the modified IOP axis and car feels worse. Well... As far as I can tell, in KFMIOP you have about 69 for 4krpm and 213, and your KFMIRL says about 99 for 4krpm and 219. You migh want to align a bite more... so the figures should be closer? This is what confused me because of the post regarding IOP being the inverse of IRL? |
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