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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2017, 04:15:02 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2017, 04:56:32 PM »

You can't write through the encryption board. Honestly though, just solder in a new 800BB, and quit wasting your time.
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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2017, 04:56:46 PM »

Buy something like this:
https://www.evc.de/en/image_any.asp?title=EAD610&img=adapter/ead/ead610.jpg&urlback=/en/product/adapter_ead.asp%23EAD610

Desolder chip from mtm board and stick it in Smiley

It looks like the board has a separate port on the side for reading and writing to the chip,
That bypasses all the protection.

So another option would be to backtrace and make your own plug? Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2017, 10:01:48 PM »

just solder in a new 800BB, and quit wasting your time.

this x1000
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2017, 10:21:01 AM »

So I stopped working with that 551T. I can get my hands on a different 551T or 551R.

If you guys could clear something up for me that would be great.

So I been reading over and over the s4wiki for tuner pro. I figured I would start with turning off the SAI, EVAP, O2s, ect... Before I touch fuel, boost, timing. So I can get use to the process and if I did something wrong the car wont get hurt.

First question is, what is the difference from a 6spd to a tip in turner pro?

I have the XDF provided and is for a 551M. I used the stock 551AL bin with good checksum. I deleted a few things like SAI, EVAP and O2s.

Flash it to the 551AL and it will start. But now the TIP trans is in limp mode. Same with the community tune.

What am I missing to compare the tip to the 6spd? The XDF?


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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2017, 11:25:49 AM »

First question is, what is the difference from a 6spd to a tip in turner pro?

Depends on the file. Some files are only for a certain trans. Some have multiple maps to support both, and the ECU can be told which one to use via coding (using VCDS).
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2017, 01:50:15 PM »

Depends on the file. Some files are only for a certain trans. Some have multiple maps to support both, and the ECU can be told which one to use via coding (using VCDS).

So it would be the 551M XDF giving me problems. Doesn't have the tip files for the 551AL files to be displayed.

Where would I get a XDF 551AL file?
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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2017, 02:01:43 PM »

4B0, 4Z7, or 8D0?

Has literally nothing to do with the XDF btw.
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« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2017, 02:20:50 PM »

4B0, 4Z7, or 8D0?

Has literally nothing to do with the XDF btw.

4BO

What could it be then? I have the original 551AL and eeprom. I delete a few things following the s4wiki and throws my tip into limp mode. Says no communication. Says the exact same thing as if I flashed a tune for a 6spd.

The only thing that is not the 551AL is the 551M XDF from s4wiki. I flash the original bin back and everything is back to normal.

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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2017, 03:08:32 PM »

Why are you using the 8D0..551M xdf  with a 4B0 file?
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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2017, 03:19:10 PM »

Why are you using the 8D0..551M xdf  with a 4B0 file?

Because I cant find a the right xdf.
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2017, 03:33:40 PM »

Because I cant find a the right xdf.

You need to do some more reading. It's hard to guide someone when they don't have the basics covered.
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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2017, 12:08:21 AM »

You can use the 8D0-551L file with the 8D0-551M xdf
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2017, 09:00:59 AM »

You can use the 8D0-551L file with the 8D0-551M xdf

Will that have any conflict with the IMMO 4B090511AL.

This is my understanding of it.

The XDF reads the layout for the maps/tune bin file. The 8D0551M XDF is for a manual S4. Im putting a 4B090511AL tip A6 file in it.

Now this is where im kinda stuck. So the XDF file already has a pre-layout for the tune of an APB manual. Why that tune will start my APB A6. And their is no communication to the tip as their are no files for the tip. The XDF cant read the tip files as its not laid out for it.

I can either make a custom XDF for the 511AL, I dont want to do this at this point in time. Or find a 511AL XDF file. Or any APB tip XDF and defeat the IMMO?

Someone did say they made the files to convert to tip and put it in the definitions section. He did this for the community tune as it is for a manual.

I looked high and low, couldn't find it.

I also looked everywhere for my stock XDF and got nothing. Im thinking I can use any APB tip XDF and should work if I use the 511AL tune to it.

If my understanding of it is wrong, please clarify. I read and then read again, then followed the steps in s4wiki. Having another description worded differently might help the noobs get a better understanding of it.

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« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2017, 10:19:06 AM »

Will that have any conflict with the IMMO 4B090511AL.

The 8D0..551L has no immo.

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The XDF reads the layout for the maps/tune bin file. The 8D0551M XDF is for a manual S4. Im putting a 4B090511AL tip A6 file in it.

Now this is where im kinda stuck. So the XDF file already has a pre-layout for the tune of an APB manual

No, the 8D0..551M xdf is ONLY for the 8D0..551M file. Period. It just happens to be the 8D0.551L file is similar enough to the M for the xdf to work with it.. In general, you cannot do this.

It has nothing to do with tip/manual. Bins are paired with a single xdf. They rarely have the same map layout.
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