bigrig
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« on: October 10, 2017, 10:54:51 AM »
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Hey guys, basically I want to know how to get the injectors to inject fuel under 200 RPM or so, because the engine barely starts otherwise due to worn starter not being able to spin it past the 200RPM.
Do i need to flash the ECU or something else? Sorry for bad english, not first language.
Thanks!
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jochen_145
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 08:51:05 AM »
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There is a "start IQ map", depending on engine Speed and engine temp. This map needs to be modifired and been flashed into ECU
Lable is "mrwSTMGRKF"
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gman86
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 11:40:38 PM »
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Hey guys, basically I want to know how to get the injectors to inject fuel under 200 RPM or so, because the engine barely starts otherwise due to worn starter not being able to spin it past the 200RPM.
Do i need to flash the ECU or something else? Sorry for bad english, not first language.
Thanks!
Why do people want to try and map around hardware faults instead of fixing them? |
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jochen_145
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 01:36:21 AM »
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Because OEM did it the same way...
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THANAS
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 04:48:47 AM »
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Because OEM did it the same way...
Except they didn't ship the cars with faulty starters. |
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gman86
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 03:16:48 AM »
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Because OEM did it the same way...
The OEM calibrations allow for tolerances that exist across the power train. If you went to VW with a faulty starter I'm willing to bet a lot of money part of the fix won't be software. |
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jochen_145
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 03:28:40 PM »
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depenting on the definition of "faulty starter".. If a "faulty starter" is a one, who still reves but isn´t able to reatch expacted engine speed to start, Audi fixed this problem by a officel update in case of a customer complaint. And yes, this update includes a change of the mrwSTMGRKF-map.. Sorry, you lost a lot of money..  |
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gman86
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 01:30:13 AM »
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depenting on the definition of "faulty starter".. If a "faulty starter" is a one, who still reves but isn´t able to reatch expacted engine speed to start, Audi fixed this problem by a officel update in case of a customer complaint. And yes, this update includes a change of the mrwSTMGRKF-map.. Sorry, you lost a lot of money.. So they did that to fix worn starters? Don't talk shit. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 05:48:02 AM »
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So they did that to fix worn starters? Don't talk shit.
then dont be a dickhead. op asked a simple question with a known history and you act like its the wrong way to fix when the oem made a software update fixing the issue in the same way. try helping and not being a dick |
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4ringpieces
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2017, 08:18:57 AM »
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Oem only did this update on very few known problem cars.
Not every diesel.
If you can't get it to spin 240rpm with the injector loom unplugged, simply fix the hardware, I've seen Earth straps go bad, connections go bad starter and battery's.
Experience is that hot start is a temp mod, eventually the starter/battery will die.
If the engine chugs to life when starting it's not kind on it
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gman86
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 01:27:04 AM »
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then dont be a dickhead. op asked a simple question with a known history and you act like its the wrong way to fix when the oem made a software update fixing the issue in the same way. try helping and not being a dick
A known history? OP came in and said he was trying to calibrate round a "worn" starter. I said people should fix hardware issues than trying to map round them. He then tried to mitigate this with some shit about Audi releasing a SW update for a clear incompatibility between a certain piece of hardware and software - not faulty or worn hardware. The only dickhead is someone who doesn't read the full thread and grasp the context - you. |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 01:55:45 AM »
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Sorry, but yes, it is a known history:
If pinion starter isn´t able to run up 250rpm, he isn´t dead at all, so Audi update software in case of a customer ishue.
Normal way, if the workshop hightest topic is to change parts and earn a lot money:
1) check engine speed when cranking
2) update software
3) if this doesn´t help, chance battery
4) if this doesn´t helg chance starter
Actual ECU start injection as soon as they recognice any engine speed at the crankshaft, so nothing against the update of mrwSTMGRKF.
Btw.: if engine speed is too low, PD will not reach minimum open-pressure, so if crank speed is still to low, engine again will not start. The limition of mrwSTMGRKF was just chanced by soot in NEFZ..
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2017, 02:48:06 AM »
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A known history? OP came in and said he was trying to calibrate round a "worn" starter. I said people should fix hardware issues than trying to map round them. He then tried to mitigate this with some shit about Audi releasing a SW update for a clear incompatibility between a certain piece of hardware and software - not faulty or worn hardware. The only dickhead is someone who doesn't read the full thread and grasp the context - you.
Members like you make this page suck for new people. Pass judgement when it wasnt asked. You have nothing to add to the subject ? Pissoff and keep your negitive mouth shut. Dickhead. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2017, 03:59:06 AM »
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Sorry, but yes, it is a known history:
If pinion starter isn´t able to run up 250rpm, he isn´t dead at all, so Audi update software in case of a customer ishue.
Normal way, if the workshop hightest topic is to change parts and earn a lot money:
1) check engine speed when cranking
2) update software
3) if this doesn´t help, chance battery
4) if this doesn´t helg chance starter
Actual ECU start injection as soon as they recognice any engine speed at the crankshaft, so nothing against the update of mrwSTMGRKF.
Btw.: if engine speed is too low, PD will not reach minimum open-pressure, so if crank speed is still to low, engine again will not start. The limition of mrwSTMGRKF was just chanced by soot in NEFZ..
You said the starter was worn. To say something is worn suggests it needs replaced. That's the end of that discussion. |
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gman86
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2017, 04:02:35 AM »
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Members like you make this page suck for new people. Pass judgement when it wasnt asked. You have nothing to add to the subject ? Pissoff and keep your negitive mouth shut. Dickhead.
The irony is strong with this fucking mouth breather. You've not exactly contributed to the OPs issue yourself, just came swinging in with personal insults like an excited autistic arsehole with a faulty keyboard. If making folk think twice about calibrating round "worn" hardware is being judgemental, then strap me on a wig and give me a hammer. |
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