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« on: October 18, 2017, 08:21:22 AM »

Hey guys, wondering if anyone can help, this is on a BAM engine.
What i am trying to achieve is to have the cars fueling controlled by LAMFA the majority of the time, then if the EGT reaches a certain point, have it controlled by KFLBTS.
This is what these tables look like stock:



and this is what i have changed them to: (LAMFA targets best spool and best power)


tables on the right havent been changed from stock

Will it work like this or do i need to change any other tables?
What is KFDLBTS and does it supersede KFLBTS?
Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 09:00:17 AM »

Both Dlbts maps to zero
Stabgm to zero

Tabgbts to 860c

Will use lamfa most of time, Will switch to bts map when around 5500-6000 on a 4th run dependant of your egts, then obviously stay there when driving hard through 5th/6th.
 
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 09:45:23 AM »

Factor should be 0.  Use the Wiki for the calculation so you can understand.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 10:01:17 AM »

thanks guys, how does this look:



I've enriched the last value in LAMFA as i was getting 5.3 timing pull on a couple of cylinders after 6000rpm 3rd gear, or could i use these maps instead to enrich when timing is pulled?


Just realised my KFLAMKR columns arent defined correctly, should be rpm
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 10:36:21 AM »

i never will understand why people set 0 bts maps, it will be easy to calculate desired afr but bts factors help to protect engine for a disaster if something goes wrong, (if engine have very high egt on low rpm for example it is extrange but could happend)

On the other hand why used lamfa always as fuelling? as i have test car is faster with higher afrs... 0,95 like on  stock file.

i like let lamfa stock and when temperature rising get fuelling via bts (with an afr of 0,85) and let Stabgm for component protection with reacher lambdas.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 10:46:36 AM »

thanks guys, how does this look:



I've enriched the last value in LAMFA as i was getting 5.3 timing pull on a couple of cylinders after 6000rpm 3rd gear, or could i use these maps instead to enrich when timing is pulled?


Just realised my KFLAMKR columns arent defined correctly, should be rpm


I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards
0.82 from 4000
0.85 from 2000-3000
Smooth between 3000-4000

Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc.

Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end.

You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero.

Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother?
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 10:51:46 AM »


I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards
0.82 from 4000
0.85 from 2000-3000
Smooth between 3000-4000

Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc.

Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end.

You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero.

Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother?


what do you mean with cf´s?
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 11:04:08 AM »

what do you mean with cf´s?

timing pull
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 11:12:15 AM »


I'd run lamfa around 0.8 at 6k onwards
0.82 from 4000
0.85 from 2000-3000
Smooth between 3000-4000

Use the 84% row of lamfa enrich it slightly etc.

Run bts down about 2-3points lower than lamfa to around 0.78 top end.

You'll gain power by getting your cf's to zero.

Have you turned off the armd so timing is smoother?


Ill need to located the tables related to ARMD
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 11:50:33 AM »

Read the headings of the tables and you'll see why that's bad.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »

@Pasteurised

you are changed BTS map bam engine
why ?  factory not used this map you are write anything

total enough lamfa and Real Egt components protection !!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 01:05:20 PM »

if you change fbstabgm on  860-->0 bts will entry  if TABGBTS i under 960º am i right? and egt protection will entry on 960º by atr?
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 01:15:23 PM »

If tabgbts....860c and Actual egt over 860c = switch from lamfa to klfbts if values in klfbts are lower than lamfa.
 
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 01:18:24 PM »

here a picture of my fuel tuning
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 02:25:16 PM »

plz see the TT 240Hp file
this file used BTS and ATR  Wink
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